I tried to call H on cell phone. He pushed a button to shut it off im gessing and guess what, i got to heere the entire conversation with him and ow. when he called i cussed him out one side and down the other really LB. Im sure. I told him to choose between her and i because i cant do this anymore. He called back about 15 min later and appologized. But who gives a flying rats [censored]. for goodness sake what the hell does he think i am %&#(%&#&$ toilet paper. I tried to talk to him but to no avail. Will hang on until counseling next thursday, but probably not much longer. I JUST WANT IT DONE> I FEEL SO DISRESPECTED.

SORRY FOR THE VENT ALL,

ANY WORDS APPRECIATED

sara

Sara,

It is ok to vent. Must be the time to 'hear calls' you are about the 2nd or 3rd one to post here saying they overheard a call. YIKES!

So were you expecting him to talk differently to the OW? Is he in denial? I am not sure of your sitch.

I just came across some older e-mails from the WS to OW, it hurt to read them again and yet I knew I needed to. So what did this make me do? Well H got an earful from me this morning. Not about the e-mails but about how he could conduct himself and show such a caring side to the OW yet tell me he was doing that to 'appease her'. Right. I told him I found that hard to believe. Yet that is the story he is sticking to. Hm.... leaving me to ponder again.

I'm thinkin' maybe I should send my requests to H via the OW. I mean if she can get him to speak nicely to her and motivate him like those e-mails said, well might as well use it to my advantage?!?!? ya know??? Nah.... it was a passing thought.

OW in my case is a bit psyco. She has been dubbed PBR (psyco babble rabbit). Names she has rightly earned.

Vent when you need.

take care,
L.

NGTDT,
You have every right to lose it, I say vent away!! It has to come out somewhere, and why not here? Seems everyone lately needs to but so many really are holding it in. Sometimes I really think that we should post a warning that it is a vent and warn that no advice is needed, just join in on the dogpile. It's anger release therapy and it is good for you. What you are going through is justifiable for a rant. WS seem to be ever so "johnny on the spot for OP", and had they given a tenth of that same energy, I'm sure there are a whole bunch of us that would not be here.

Orchid, had a point about the motivational techniques that make WS jump through hoops and have the emotional strength of superman when it comes to having A, but they can't seem to be able to wipe their own butts at home with BS. Amazing but true!!

hey sara, know how you feel. didnt listen in to phone calls, but intercepted 1 year's+ worth of daily emails.... bad, bad reading. anyway, the point remains: you cant FORCE him to do anything, all you can control is *yourself*. did/do you do plan A? can you still do it, or are your batteries getting low? from your post, it does sound so. if that's the case, start thinking & planning separation.

Ditto Nick123s post. I take it you are still sitting on the Plan B letter? Hang on for counseling.

Has the counselor suggested that he stop seeing the OW? If yes, what was his reaction? This should be a topic of discussion at the next session if indeed you are the end of your rope.

Hey all,
Im at my sisters so im not myself today <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> We are twins so i am taking a much needed break from reality. I'm sure he is painting the little town red. I am sure some good sameritan will tell me all about it on Monday (school/work)
Thank you all so much for the support. I really need it right now. Our first counseling session is Thursday. Frankly i am nervous. I don't argue my side very well ( very laid back usually) Not yesterday. Its amazing how he does what she needs done and i couldn't get him to %^#%^( air up my tire before my trip. I think plan B is inevitable. sorry to say.
Any words of advice about counseling, i really need them.

Thank you so much. greatly appriciated
sara

Sara, Sara, Sara,
I wish counseling for you was this week rather than next.

Are you out of town for the weekend? Maybe that will provide a good cooling off for you.

However, if you are still being so disrepected and he can't bother to change your tire or air it up than I think he needs the dose of reality that the plan B letter will do.

I picture you throwing all his clothes out the window like Carmella Soprano did to Tony!! How do you keep from doing that?
K

Sarah,
I'm prayingng for you. Counciling can be tough but it really helps to hear his feelings.
It's been over a year for me and my husband and I are still on a rollercoaster,
He told me this morning he was afraid to commit to me again. Where does that leave me???
Sorry if this sounds incoherant but I've had a glass or 2 of wine

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
SH01

Hey -
How did you make it through the weekend???

Wondering about you.....
DB