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So I finally get to sit down and watch 1 movie all the way through..... just 2 interuptions (LOL!!)....

The name of the movie was Open House. The actoress/actors were: Christine Lathi, Daniel Baldwin, Rita Morena and Eva Marie Saint.

Background: Scene opens with H and W having s3x..... W talks about food in an effort to further satisfy H who looks very uncomfortable..... bottom line is that he walks out claims he wants a D. Right there! Ok, it's a 2 hour movie so all the points are crammed in there. No mention of an OW. I will list the hilites from the movie in bold and my personal comments listed after each point.

The reason why I wanted to share this with you is that this movie was more on the emotional POV, not legal or financial aspects. There was no MC given but the W (Christine Lathi) did a pretty good plan A.... here goes:

WS: I was never happy in our M.....have a fire in the pit of my belly and now I need to satisfy it (not exact words but IMHO close). I want a D.

IMHO: typical WS hogwash.....

BS: (in shock), offers to go to counseling, tried various means to communicate with the WS....lets WS leave and later even helps the WS pack some bags.....

IMHO: typical BS reaction with an MB touch? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

BS does have a sort of outlet....she goes and spends $15k on china, etc. WS finds out about purchase, then promises to give the BS $$ she needs to live on but that the house will need to be sold.... no consulting WS decision. BS fights for the right to keep their home for the stability of the child. Ws makes fun of BS not being able to survive.... BS gets odd and end jobs. ..... oh yea and the BS is seen sewing all his drawers shut! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

IMHO: Wow, I think she handled it quite well. Since I am not as talented in the sewing dept, I prefer the scissor method. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

WS already secured a 'condo' and furnished it with the type of furniture that he had previously told his W NOT to buy. WS sends delivery guys over to pick up his furniture (complete with list).... WS plan B'd the BS.

IMHO: Again very WS typical.

Family (BS' mother), tells BS that she never liked the WS anyway. Issues with death of BS' father and mother's dating issues are brought up.

IMHO: Very common occurances. May vary a bit from situation to situation but very common. Teaches the BS to be prepared. I thought the BS handled it well.


This family has 1 child (a son about 11 - age never specified - at least I don't know it). Mother tries to protect son and presents him with a lavish breakfast. Son asks for cereal and doesn't want to change any routine. Son lashes out at mother for his dad leaving. BS tells son she hates his father (ws)....son is shocked and withdraws....

IMHO: This probably happens more than we know (child's reaction). EAch must have a way to vent. The BS put the child's interest ahead of her own but when it got to be more than she could handle it overflowed......yet she was able to catch it pretty quick...... and where was the WS dad? NO where to be found.

BS tells son that dads leaving is NOT his fault....son says he knows that. After movers clear out his father's study and other furniture.....BS offers to show son the room (sounded a bid morbid but I could understand this was her way of helping him deal with his father's leaving).....son declines offer but later in the middle of the night, BS wakes up to hear her son wimpering in an empty room.....

IMHO: This part made me cry. Just reinforces that anyone who thinks or utters the point that the children are not affected needs their heads examined. The WS reaction is what leads credence to the alien theory.

BS finds out about GF......son demands to live with dad..... BS delivers son with luggage to WS condo.....

IMHO: I wondered why the BS had such trust and did not suspect about an OW? My conclusion: Hollywood plot and short timeframe.

WS invites BS into condo (that's where she finds out about the furniture)..... WS acts like he is happy his son is moving in...... .

IMHO: WS is the typical idiot. Just to see him act as he did made my skin crawl.

Enters the OW..... acts like this confrontation is no big deal...... very obvious that the WS sent the OW out of the house but the OW clearly had a mind of her own..... OW insisted on shaking hands with the BS to display what was seen as a 4 carat engagement ring.

IMHO: NOw this really made me quiver.... this OW tried to look sweet and innocent but you just can't hide rotten. Lesson: Never put anything past an OW. Remember they have their own website, university and manual - LOL!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

BS definitely concerned about the arrangement.....OW 'assures' BS that OW loves the child 'to death' (OW's exact words).... subtle look of fear was seen in the BS' face.
WS stumbling with his words saying he meant to tell the BS about the engagement.... BS comments..isn't this a bit premature since we are not even divorced yet? BS demeanor quite calm.


IMHO: Another momment of horror. Gotta say these actors were good. The subtle way the OW puts her digs to the BS and no support from the WS....... made my skin crawl. I wanted to rip that OW to shreds..... oops did I detect violence? This movie should have been rated V for promoting violence tendancies!!! LOL Yet the BS handled herself quite well. That calmed me back down.

Son runs out as mother leaves, asking why she didn't say goodbye.....she hugs son and says that she will be available to pick him up anytime and at a moment's notice..... son sobs after mother leaves.... (child has clearly been affected by the father's A).

IMHO: Another tear jerker momment. Son knows he has to give his dad a chance yet he also appears to know it is setting himself up for disappointment. Arrgh...... way too real!

BS is set up by her mom with what turns out to be a dud date. Makes BS hate men even more..... BS even lashes out at a male friend, that has been helping the family out.

IMHO: Too early for the BS to date and then to almost be eaten alive by her agressive date.... YUCK!

Support to BS comes from unusual persons and places. BS takes in 2 borders (her friend's mom and a 'japanese' girl that was kicked out by her
stepmom.). Son reacts bad to both at first then becomes friends and his supporters by the end of the movie. Support even helps the BS get a job/jobs, gives her a shoulder to cry on while allowing the BS to live her life and try what the BS feels she must do.


IMHO: This was good. I have always said support can come from the most unusual sources. BS was not only a giver but a survivor. BS was gracious despite the odds against her.

BS has a romantic interest....remember this just a movie....

IMHO: Hollywood at it again.

WS has a change of heart.... or does he? WS arrives to the family home, lets himself in and when the BS comes home he is waiting there to tell the BS that he is coming home (doesn't ask, just tells....pay attention to this piece).

IMHO: Classic. I felt relieved yet hurt. Now not even the child wanted the dad back. It didn't go into that as much but the audacity of the WS to come waltzing into the house and expect he could just move back in....again....typical WS attitude.

BS asks why. WS says the OW left him after OW finds out from a jeweler that the '4 carat ring' is a fake......

IMHO: This was great.....true love and a fako ring. Then the BS asked the WS if her wedding ring was a fake....WS said no. A bit touching, I wanted to reach out and slap that WS.

BS asks WS why does he need to come back....after all wasn't the OW fueling the fire in the pit of his belly? WS says no. BS then asks what does the WS miss? WS says family, routine, child...... BS asks what about me? WS says yes I miss you.....BS asks to specify....WS says he misses (as he stammers), he misses the BS things she does for him..... NOTE: he did not miss her just what she did for him.

IMHO: This was a good scene. Shows the use of the WS words right back at the WS. Take note that the BS was able to clearly see that the WS was still displaying his selfish tendancies that got him out there to begin with.

This gives the BS strength to tell the WS, we can speak again but not about reconciliation. BS able to tell WS it is over.... WS looks dumbfounded and I was clapping....

IMHO: Wow, what an ending. Hurt but inspiring. Why? Not because she told him off but because she survived. Also she showed that she was NOT willing to settle for less than someone who would love her.

Thanks,
L.

<small>[ February 19, 2003, 12:58 AM: Message edited by: Orchid ]</small>

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I would like to know the title of this movie Orchid. It sounds good! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

Errr... how is it, that you could watch a movie, and not know the title? Was it on tv? Because then, you could check the tv listings from when you watched it.

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I think this was 'Open House' that was on last night. It is based on the book by Elizabeth Berg. I haven't read it or seen the movie but I saw the commercial <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Hi Topie and VL,

VL is right, the title is Open House..... (thanks VL). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Haven't heard from you in a while... how are you doing?

Topie, I seldom sit and watch anything completely through.... too many chores and not enough arms. LOL!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I just could not remember the title of the movie. The scenes left such an impression and with me fighting this flu bug, the brain is just not running @ the normal 100 mph! You know... mom speed! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I will post my thoughts on the first post later.... have to run off to work this afternoon.

See ya later,
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Ok I posted my comments and would appreciate feedback. Even though this was a movie.... a lot was learned.

Please let me know what you think.

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I'm not sure what kind of comments you're looking for Orchid. All I can say is that I totally agree with your assessment! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

What I have found, is that there are many "Hollywood" movies that portray EMA's from both points of view. The subtlety (sp?) of how to deal with it the RIGHT way (MB like of course! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) is there, usually. However, yes, most movies seem to focus on the "true love" that goes on (by imagination? nah... based on pure emotions, nothing more).

I find it amazing... that since I found MB, I am so much more "in tune" to the reality of the subject in movies... especially family times. I love analysing... and do it all too frequently! LOL.

Here's a good example... maybe you (or anyone else reading this) can help me out here: The show "EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND". I used to ADORE that show! I started watching it just before d-day, and laughed so hard! Why? Because I could relate SO WELL with "Debra". But now... I can't watch it and find it so funny, b/c of the same reason. Here's my point: What the heck does Ray do, to meet Debra's needs??? She regularly tells him what she needs from him, and he always mucks up. The same things... over and over again. Then he'll feed her some "crumbs" (again, triggers me and reminds me of my situation). IMO, she is ripe and ready for an A... maybe with her BIL, Robert??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Okay... so I've gone somewhat off topic... but not really. It's still all "Hollywood", right? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Hi Karen,

Well I thought it was a pretty good rendition of our lives.... I like when she was sewing his shorts closed!!! LOL!!

It is hard to watch almost any show except for cartoon network...... Digimon, trasformers, batman, etc...... then there is cnn and the local news - LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I wanted others to see how it is possible to plan A. I thought she did a pretty good job.

IMHO of course.

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I dunno, Orchid. I'm still having a tough time with triggers in movies. Mostly when my W and I are trying to unwind from the day in front of the lobotomy box. Heck, we even watched "Attack of the clones" and you know? You know how truly $h!++y the love scenes were in THAT movie? Well, even that crap was triggery!

We got Silent Running on DVD recently. Maybe I'll watch that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

-ol' Qfwfq


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