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Hello Everyone,

I need help. Following is an update. Please offer suggestion.

A ended in January (False ending in Nov.)

Gambling stopped! He was in terrible debt. I’d ask him to help us with tuition, he ’d say he only had $20.00 left from his paycheck. 3/03 he seems to have cleared his debts that I am aware of.

FWH still living with AIL who caters to him. Bought him a cell phone so she can get in touch with him. AIL nice to me to/keeps son when we need her to, etc. She says she’s happy that FWH is coming around.

He calls more, we’re spending more time together. At our house or AIL. 5 yr old son is enjoying having us together.

FWH gave financial support (support petition through state still pending/We don’t discuss this/I don’t want to stop it either)

Bought a beautiful card (front cover said “ We are partners for life”….inside of card said “we are understanding when we each need our space” and etc), a beautiful arrangement of flowers and chocolate candy (Fanny May Pixies) and a movie. I loved the card the most.

FWH said what may be typical language. Tell me what you think.

FWH says: “What I love about BS is that you are honest and that I can trust whatever you say. “ “I told OW, I can tell when you are lying. “

Per FWH, OW asks” when”?

FWH: “When you open your mouth”. FWH says everything she said was a lie.

FWH goes on to say to BS, “The thing you have to realize is that OW is not the type of woman you would marry”. I never stopped loving you. I did things just to make you angry.

BS: What could I do that perhaps OW did that made you happy?

FWH: Nothing!

FWH: “I feel like I am loosing my best friend”. (Jan 03, BS told FWH “it is obvious that you have made a decision what and who you want and that you don’t want to be a husband or a father, so I am moving on with my life, I have done everything I could and have given as much as I can give.” It will be best for me and our son. This is difficult for us. His countenance became very sad. I didn’t say how I was going to move on. I told him how do you think I feel, when I take our son to school every morning and I have to pass by AIL’s street (apartment), and I don’t see your car there! I asked him if he thought I ever drove by the efficiency where OW lives and sees his car there. He said yes! (I didn’t/but didn’t tell him I didn’t). I asked FWH if he ever drove by our house to check us out. He said, “yes”. This shocked me, because I didn’t think he cared and was not the typical WS in that area). For a week or two he came by our home every night when he got off of work (2nd shift), then that became less and less, but most nights he’d call.

BS: I told FWH that it appears that he is very comfortable with AIL.

FWH: That may not be good though.

From this conversation greater changes occurred and even now continue to. I realize patience is a virtue and I am grateful to God for these changes and movement toward reconciling. I thought that when the A ended, the gambling stopped he’d come begging to come back home. He has been more willing to help us. Now he refers to me as his wife. I am trying to give him his space, for example when we don’t talk for a few days he’ll ask me “why haven’t you called or come by AIL”. He bought son new shoes and wondered why I hadn’t come to get them. I tell him “I am honoring your request for space.” He responded by saying “oh, I guess I will call you.

At times I feel like I am in no position to set or make demands. I asked FWH if he had a plan for his family. He said he did. I told him that when he is ready to discuss them and matters concerning our family let me know. I suggested that he consider our going to marriage counseling, that I was willing.

For those experienced people in this area or those who can share their views please shed some light on this situation. I have read I believe Caroline’s post regarding how she was able to bring her husband to point of deciding to commit totally to his wife and family.

God Bless you,

WR

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WR,

Good to hear from you. Your H sounds like he is finally seeing reality and the fogginess is wearing out.

Hope it stays that way. Each time they attempt to go back into the fog, it becomes harder for them because the BS doesn't react the same. Being a bit more aloof, the WS begins to feel 'unwanted'. The very thing they accuse the BS of at the beginning. As you stated: [ib]"I have done everything I could and have given as much as I can give.” It will be best for me and our son." [/ib], this shows you require what is best for your family.

I am proud of you. Right now I also am having to stand by my words and what I encourage others to do. It is hard but much easier when we practice it.

take care,
L.

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Hello L,

It is nice to hear from you to. I have not been in MB much and I do miss it. Change we must to adapt, to grow, to demand better for us, our spouses, children and family. Sometimes it is hard to stand by what is right but we really have no choice.

I heard Dennis Rainey of Family Life Today talking with his co-host and the author of Torn Asunder discussing that BS need the same length of time that the A went on to recover and heal emotionally from what has happened and the the WS needs to allow them that time. It really does take time and patience from the BS and the WS or FWH.

I pray that God will continue to give you strenghth to stand and demand what is right for your family.

God Bless you,

WR


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