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I am a WS seeking advice from others on breaking the addiction to the other person. Recognizing the addiction is certainly an important first step, but what's next? I want and need to move on with my life with hopes (and prayers) of rebuilding my marriage.
Specifically, how do you know when you have broken the addiction or is it simply a life-long process of managing it? I recognize the critical importance of no contact for the recovery in marriage and have read about the withdrawal process.
As always, any and all information welcomed and appreciated.
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I'm not sure how to break the addiction, but I feel I am in the same boat. All I have talked about lately is her. Nothing else. I am addicted to her. I know its not healthy, but cant stop asking people what do you think she means by this or that.
It hurts if I find the answer I will surely let you know <small>[ May 26, 2003, 09:47 AM: Message edited by: pbrown30 ]</small>
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Well, you break the addiction by cutting off all contact and filling that hole with healthy things. Its almost like an addiction to a substance, the only solution is complete abstinence. As with a substance, at first you are griefsticken, but then it wanes away until you no rarely think about it anymore. <small>[ May 26, 2003, 09:58 AM: Message edited by: MelodyLane ]</small>
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I agree with Melody----no contact is a must and you need to do whatever it takes to succeed--i.e. quit job, move, change cell phone numbers, e-mail addresses. Just like an alcohol/drug addiction, the urge is very strong so you need to make it as difficult as possible to make contact.
I must add that like any other addiction, you may not be able to beat it by yourself. You need to be accountable to someone regularly. You need people who understand your struggle and that will be there for you to call when you are tempted to contact the OP. You also need to be upfront with your S----all honesty will pave the way for you to be trusted again. PROVE to your S that you want to do whatever it takes.
Hope this helps the both of you recover from the most painful thing that, I think, can happen to people.
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Melody & Tossed....
Thanks for the posts and your advice. Points taken, especially about developing an alternative stragegy to contacting other person & seeking a teammate through the process. Good stuff.
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Foolish, You have gotten some good advice already. Although I am happy now, when MM #1 first movd in I was not at all thrilled. I had already begun my second (and last) EMR w/ MM #2. He and I worked the same shift. Thus we worked 8 hours together very closely. Not to mention he came over several days a week plus called all the time. We literally spent hours on the phone while the kids were in school and his W was too as she is a teacher's aid.
Luckilly I lost my job. I was on unemployment for 39 weeks and had too much time on my hands. I went NC as I felt it was needed to give relationship w/ MM #1 a chance.
Yet, I was often thinking about MM#2 - a lot. Then one day MM #2 had arranged a lunch w/ me through a mutual friend. I had no idea he'd be there. It was a set back and I fell into the old pattern. He even got me a new cell phone MM#1 knew nothing about. I felt incredibly guilty because at the time MM #2 was MM#1's boss and he often called me at night from work.
I eventually came clean w/ MM #1. MM #1 forgave me. In that moment I knew what a good man I really had. I compared him to MM #2 whom I enjoyed, but knew I would never really want to be with. MM #1 won hands down.
You really have to put the OP out of your thoughts. I again went NC. I even lost 2 friends in the process as they would try to pass me messages from MM #2. I also had to stay away from music. Certain songs really can just do me in. Try to stay busy. If you find your thoughts wandering try to do something nice for your SO. Imagine what it would be like w/out your SO at your side.
Time does help. I still think about MM #2 at times. However, I almost never dream about him and I have no desire to contact him at all. Good luck to you in your struggle. tew
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Hi Foolish Bird,
What a creative name!!
I've been mentoring, somewhat, your W and she asked me to pop over here and see if there was anything I could offer.
Most of what others have posted to you is accurate. The only way to begin to recover from any addiction is to remove the source of that addiction. So, if your issue was alcohol rather than this woman, we would need to get you away from all sources or alcohol and put precautions in place that made it very difficult for you to drink in the future.
That would be things like being completely honest with your wife.... not just about where you are, and what your plans are for the day... although those things are essential. But radical honesty also means sharing with her how you feel.... even when hearing it is going to be painful for her.... or when it's scary for you to share.
Honesty means letting your partner know that you are struggling with the grief and missing the other person; it means telling her when the temptation to pick up the phone or send an email is almost overwhelming.
It is only with that level of honesty, adding emotional honesty to the picture, that you can really create the extreme precautions needed to ensure that your spouse is not hurt in this way again.
Ok, so the first step is ending the A. Cutting off all contact with the source of the addiction. You do that by sending a letter that states certain things.... you don't do it in person over a bottle of wine!! LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
Next you create an atmosphere of openess... of factual honesty, where all phone, email, snailmail, etc., accounts are revealed, along with their passwords. You also block her number from your phones and her email addy from your accounts.
You agree to accountability for time, whereabouts, and money 24/7. So you each know where the other is at any time, and can verify those wherabouts with a phone call or a visit. And really, the decisions about where you go and what you do, with whom, need to pass the Policy of Joint Agreement test.
You can expect to go through anywhere from 6 weeks to 6 months of withdrawal once you end contact. Withdrawal is miserable. It's a grieving process because you will have lost someone that you care about very deeply. During this time you might want to talk to your family doc about anti-depressants to get you through the short term.
If during this time you have contact with the other woman, you'll feel an instant revitalization, and then all the hurt and the guilt and the confusion and the struggle will set in as well. When you end contact again, the withdrawal clock usually resets back at the beginning.
It's always in your best interest to make sure there is no further contact. It impedes your recovery and it is horribly cruel and painful for your wife. Although she's doing a good job of hanging in there now she won't be able to do it forever.
I talk to many women every week who are in this position.... and they all tell me that they'll always love their husbands, they'll wait for them to come back, they want to do whatever it takes to save the marriage. And then inevitably it happens.... one day they wake up and any feelings they had for their spouse is gone. Just like that. Suddenly they find they can't imagine wanting him to come back. What a tragedy that is for everyone!! Don't let that be the ending to your story.... it's so horribly painful for everyone involved.
Most affairs end. They're really not relationships based on care, integrity, or commitment. They're relationships that exist in a bubble and are founded on someone else's pain. Not a good starting point, you must admit. Of those relationships that go on to become permanent... that eventually end in marriage... something close to 85% end in divorce. Looking forward, your long term chances of happiness with this woman are statistically pretty grim.
Ok, so you end it, you send the n/c letter, you create conditions of radical honesty and openess in your marriage. Once the withdrawal begins to subside you can begin to address the issues in the marriage itself. Eliminating the things that are painful for either one of you, and the fun part... exploring what each of you needs to be happy and fulfilled in marriage and becoming experts at meeting those needs.
In the future, you'll both make your decision using the Policy of Joint Agreement, Never do anything without an enthusiastic agreement between you and your spouse, so you'll never find yourself in this predicament again!
Recovery is hard work, but it's rewarding and fulfilling work. And in the end you have the spark and the passion with your wife that you've found in the affair... your family, your finances, your home, your lives are intact and protected. Really the best possible outcome.
Here are the things that need to go into a n/c letter to the other woman:
No contact letter to the affair partner: • Out of respect and love for spouse and children you realizes that you must never see or speak to lover again. • The relationship with lover was cruel and thoughtless and your spouse did not deserve to be treated that way • You are determined to be the spouse your partner deserves and have been missing • You will not contact her again and ask that she respect your wish to end the relationship entirely • Your spouse has been told all the details of the affair and will be told immediately if contact is attempted in the future.
You can write and send this letter today, and begin the journey back to peace in your life, and love in your marriage.
If there is anything I can help you with, I'm more than happy to do so. Once, long ago, I was the unfaithful spouse so I know some of what you are struggling with. My heart goes out to all of you.
All the best,
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Cerri -- Thank you very much for your post and advice. I appreciate your taking time to do so. Your directions are specific and clear -- almost in "check list" fashion. I guess no one can find that magic bullet or celestial sign letting them know that the addiction is broken. It's more likely something you manage hourly or daily. Thank you again. FB
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FB,
You're very welcome. You'd never guess that I'm a list fanatic would you?? I knew I was in trouble the day I made a list of all the lists I had!! LOL
Let me know if there's anything I can help with as you work through all of this.
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"I made a list of all the lists I had!"
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Hahahaa
I envision your office covered with post-it notes ... this makes me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Pepperband: <strong>"I made a list of all the lists I had!"
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Hahahaa
I envision your office covered with post-it notes ... this makes me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh no..... my lists require far more paper than post it notes..... try pages and pages of legal pad paper tossed willy nilly around the room and stacked here there and everywhere!! LOL (not to mention the ones I have on my hard drive <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> )
Love your dragon warning, btw. Makes me laugh every time I see it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Oh no..... my lists require far more paper than post it notes..... try pages and pages of legal pad paper tossed willy nilly around the room and stacked here there and everywhere!! LOL (not to mention the ones I have on my hard dr </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> this sounds just like me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
I have list for everything...
List of books to read
Grocery list
List of things to do
List of goals to strive for
List of projects
List of people I need to contact
I used to walk into therapy with list... a page FULL of things I wanted to talk about. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Large papers, small papers, post-it's stuck in my Daytimer...
Queen of LISTS!!!
Suz <small>[ May 29, 2003, 05:31 PM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>
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Is that Susan from Mississippi?
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why? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Are you on one of my lists? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
Susan <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> <small>[ May 30, 2003, 06:52 AM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>
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