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The last 10 days of my life have just dragged by.

Been very busy @ work, but also have been really tearful when I stop and think about what has happened in my life.

I went past OW's house on the way home from hockey practice tonight. Whose car is there? WH of course. Good luck to them both.

I am in Plan B, but it made me angry. He has chosen his affair with her, and is not sorting out the issues he has with me. There has been the odd text message just to make sure I am still around, but no real concern about ME - the person who he promised he would forsake all others for, and remain bound to for better and for worse etc...

The apparent porn problem is confusing me. I feel that he is a sick, sick man. The sites are hardcore, as are the daily doses that he is receiving via e-mail. The thin end of the wedge, I fear.

I have had time to process the significance of a number of events.
- OW is Asian. The last person WH (a european) dated before me was Asian. I am part Asian. The porn images he seems to be into are of women with dark features, many are Asian.
- For much of our relationship, WH was trying to turn me into his fantasy muscle woman.
- When we were engaged, he bought me a second-hand book on women's body-building as a BIRTHDAY present. (I did think it was odd at the time ...)
- Then there were continual conversations and suggestions that I should take up body building - he even paid for a gym subscription last year, wrote me a weights programme, and tried to get me to drink protein drinks!! I have always enjoyed being fit, but cardiovascular fitness, not muscle building.
- Last year, he suggested that I should get breast enlargement (I was quite happy with my boobs BTW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ) he even offered to do this as a 30th birthday present. Anyone think this an unusual thing to do???

This Asian/porn/bodybuilding thing is downright creepy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Many aspects of our relationship history are now hitting me right between the eyes, although of course I may be blowing thing way out of proportion.

I'm not sure why it upsets me that he has gone. He is a sick pervo. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't want to start a relationship with my H.

Unfortunately, where I live, a couple must be separated for 2 years before they can file for divorce. I would do it tomorrow if I could. That means that I will be left with the legacy of this event hanging over me for another 18 months. Unbelievable. I just want this all to stop, I just want to cut him out of my life and be done with this, but I can't.

I guess I am also worried that if he and OW split up, he might want to reconcile. I can't face the thought of that. It's become too complicated with the porn factor. I think my self esteem would take a real dive if that happened.

Anyone got any suggestions for moving through this? Although I am in Plan B, I really don't feel as if I have a lot of control over things right now. All things considered, I have very little respect left for WH. Pity yes, but respect and admiration, no.

BTW, it's my real birthday in about a week's time. My gut feeling (which is always right these days) is that he will just ignore it. Adding insult to injury it seems.

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Sounds like he's trying to control you.

If all you are is a pair of fake boobs to him then I say move one.Plastic surgery is a serious decission. Maybe I'm miss reading this.

As for your feelings regarding his lack of communication and concern I'm going throught the same thing. My wife left 3 months now and still will not talk about anything about what happened to us or regarding the affair.

I'm also beginning to think it's time to move forward with my life. What else are we to do if we get no indication from our spouses that we meen anything to them.

I'm starting to think it's best to deal with reality today and prepare mentaly for the worst. It's over and accept that fact until such time as something occurs to change that reality.

If she does turn in my direction I will be strong enough to make a decission at that time. If she doesn't then I will have delt with my issues and will be able to move forward with my own closure.

Hang in there.

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Claire,

You may have to wait two years to file, but have you ever thought about moving? The distance may protect you better in the coming months from things like drive bys....and give you more detachment.

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Claire,

Something about white guys and asian women..... B4 any1 thinks I am prejudice..... I am asian married to a haole guy!!! My WS did similar. The OW he finally picked was an ugly asian....no kidding. I am no beauty queen but I finally saw a picture of her and her dog..... not much difference - LOL!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I didn't marry my H because he was white. Race doesn't play that kind of factor to me but this world nowadays.....some sort of macho attitude comes into play in a sick way and those porn sites take advantage of it. I don't think even the Ws can explain why they have a fetish that way.

I was sick when I learned that mine went to those places. I looked at some of those girls and they looked like little girls. It was sick and sad. The things they wrote to advertise themselves was sicko.

The porn market your H appears to be hooked into is quite popular. Like all those other markets, the high is temporary..... So picture him in his eighties....think any of those asians will want him then??? Howz about the OW?

The important thing now is taking care of you. How are you doing with that?

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Orchid,

I am of mixed race - but really don't identify with the Chinese side. WH was always interested in Chinese/oriental culture - I guess I wasn't Chinese enough. Ow was raised in Taiwan. When OW first met me, she later told my H that she was relieved I wasn't "funny looking like most other half-Asians" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> Unbelievable. He tried to tell me it was meant as a compliment <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> Makes me wonder whether she ever has considered having any funny looking kids with WH.

She is BUTT UGLY - both inside and out. I really think he could have done much better, but maybe he doesn't think he is worth more than her!!

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I was on playground duty at school today, and stopped to talk to one of the students I taught last year. She said:

"Mrs L, you're looking really thin! Have you been sick or something lately?"

It brought tears to my eyes.

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Ooohhh my Claire,

Are you in the Bay Area???? PBR is the same! LOL!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Mixed is cute. At least in my books. My family is from Hawaii and the children with mixed cultures often come out looking cute and handsome!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

There is beauty in every culture and unfortunately some bad.

Our son is hapa haole (1/2 mainlander - caucasian). H says our son is handsome. I'm the mom so well, I agree whole heartedly. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

But you know this A stuff crosses the entire globe. Not one nation or culture is exempt from the pain of an A. This makes me sad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

I always remember the saying that 'beauty is only skin deep but rottenness goes straight to the bones.' <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

OP couldn't hold a flicker of light to a BS regardless of how she looked. Hold you head high Claire, you are better than them. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Orchid,

Actually, I live in New Zealand (it's near Australia) Race isn't really important to me, I married WH because of who he was, not what race he came from. It's only since the porn issue came up that I am starting to see that maybe he didn't marry me for who I was.

I agree! Beauty IS only skin deep, but ugly goes to the bone!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

We Eur-Asians (or Amer-Asians) ARE beautiful. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> And we get to choose best of both worlds - Asian family values, Chinese cooking skills, perseverence and industriousness.

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Hugz to you Claire,

Hope you aren't dealing with one of PBR's soritity A sisters from that OW college in fantasy land!!! LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

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I think OW graduated top of her class!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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So can you picture this on their resume:

Name: OW
Address: Any bed
Anytown USA

Education:
Primary school: K-12
OW college: 4 years graduated with horrors

Occupation: Breaking up M's.
Multiple positions and can't hold a job

Letters of recommendation: 3 NC letters from 3 different WS.

References: TOW Board @ gloryB.com

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> L.

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Add to that:

Role Models:
Snow White's wicked stepmother

Dislikes:
Single men
Happy marriages

Past-times:
Sewing (seeds of doubt)
Knitting (webs of deception)

Biggest Challenge:
Looking in the mirror

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Wow, U R good!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

PBR has a sewing website. Sells skirts, pillows and does quilting (blankets & bedspreads). Her website is ok, her quilting is ok but I am not sure it is worth buying over the internet. Oh well.....someone is buying her stuff (WS' who can see the truth!).

These OWs are definitely in a league of their own. Not one I would be proud of but PBR tried to convince me that she was better than me. I saw through that pretty quick but it still hurt. U know we are raised to look for the good in others. I kept trying to find something good but just couldn't find enough to warrant her bad behavior...... oh yea, she is kind to dogs and can sew.

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On D-Day, OW told me that I was being selfish <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> .

OW is a saleswoman, with a BA in Psychology. I think Daddy paid for her fine education. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

According to WH, OW is REALLY good at housework; unlike me, she will do all of the housework herself and not expect him to do any! All that education, and no sense!!

I KNOW that I am better than OW in every possible way. I think it is very funny that she lives at home (aged 30) with her parents. WH sure knows how to pick a winner! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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In the fog, logic gets warped. At the beginning I was told that OW was supposedly a 'biology' major. I guess just that statement was suppose to make her better than me. Hm..... well I am working fulltime, OW sells tea leaves, teaware, blankets, quilts and skirts. I think it is commendable that she has a business or 2 but I was not about to go comparing who was better than who.

Guess what? I didn't have to. PBR claimed prego 2 weeks after d/d. Said she didn't know if she was pregnant or not but was sure she was having a baby girl (because that is what the WS always wanted). So this supposed biology major who was 45 at the time couldn't tell if she was pregnant, didn't go to the doctor but could tell she was carrying a female fetus at 3 weeks???? Talk about warped.

That piece of illogic cracked me up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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The OW and us BSs can't be compared. The only thing that we have in common is some kind of relationship with an unfaithful man. Even then, that relationship can't be compared.

As for sorarity sister, Miss PC, well, she's not very smart. She's shrewd, and materialistic and cares a lot about money, but actually she's not a smart person. She doesn't play sports and as for the housework thing, well if she had to tell my H that she would do all the housework just to get him to like her, then that just smacks of desparation.

I can drive a truck, I have been in the Army, and I have two degrees. (there are other things I can do, but those are the things I am most proud of) I can't stop my WH from cheating or looking at porn, but I doubt that Miss PC will be successful there either.

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Question answered by reading old posts.

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