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How good you are getting at this?
I have been reading your responses to people here and on JFO, man you're getting really really good at this stuff. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Seriously, you should go back and read your first posts here and what you post now. It goes to show that you can teach and "OLD" DAWG new tricks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
I am really serious, and this is meant as very sincere compliment. You've got this stuff figured out.
I also think your W knows you do as well. It is no accident that she is hiding behind the "I never wanted to be married" statement. Your changes have indirectly put a lot of pressure on her to evaluate her actions.
You done good.
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I agree.
2Long has shown a remarkable willingness to be open to new ideas that seemed very dubious in his mind .
I think willingness is KEY here. One has to be willing to be willing.
And, 2Long has not objected to sheding his long held habits and thinking errors.... and some old hurts as well.
WTG .... not bad, for a guy! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
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"Gawsh, I'm speechless!" (as ol' 2long does his Cowardly Lion 'shy' impersonation).
You guys helped make me the ... ...man I am 2day, I assure you!!!
What a journey! And it ain't over by a long shot yet, either. I was going 2 say something modest like "huh uh, I still don't have a clue!", but the truth? I have a clue. Maybe even 7 or 8 of them. But it has taken me a long time 2 get 2 this point, this state of mind. All because I kept resisting, and resisting, and resisting. It was "easy" 2 resist, 2, because I was "right" and my W was "wrong". Really easy, huh? Useful position though? Heckfire no. And precisely because my resistance is exactly what prolonged me getting 2 this point.
And what was the 2rning point, really? Well, though I "did it myself" (meaning, had 2 fix myself anyway, had 2 "get it"), I can put my finger right smack dab on the individual and the particular "item" that finally clicked: Spacecase, and Radical Forgiveness. Pure and simple. And it clicked, if I might presume, exactly the same way he described it doing so for him.
But there were a lot of other players here and over at iloveulove.com that helped me 2 learn what I've learned. 2 numerous 2 list here (due in large part 2 my something like 5000 posts as 2long, T-zero, and Qfwfq!)
Having said all that, I'm still not "recovered" fully, though if Pepper will let me, I'll call this "In recovery" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> (starting last Thursday or so). Also, I haven't the foggiest notion (pun intended) whether the end result will be a rebuilt M or something else entirely. Because I realized, though I'd heard it many times, that the goal first had 2 be personal healing in order for the M 2 have a chance. I feel pretty nifty now, but our M still needs a lot of work (not just maintenance), but once I changed focus really from trying 2 force the M back in2 shape, it has started morphing back in2 shape (at least better shape) as an ancillary benefit!
Thank you, JL! You're a pal! -not so ol' 2long
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I think Pep's hit the nail right on the head: "we just need to be willing", open to the possibility, even if it goes against long-held beliefs...that is the door to changing those beliefs, to seeing things in a new way.
Very much the path I tread towards forgiveness, VERY much...just to be willing...
PS; Pep: we could have done without the "...for a guy" part though! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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I truly expected the first line of JL's post to read "the muffin man?" hee hee <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Yup 2long...you're pretty cool...for a science geek and all <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
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Hope,
Careful, what you say about us science geeks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
"the muffin man" ???? I think I am missing something here. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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Oh say it ain't so!! I get to explain something to a science geek!!! HEE HEE!!!
You're title "do you know" The first thing that popped in to my head "the muffin man"
Get it?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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I'm adding this too for JL...
Lyrics- The Muffin Man--that darling childhood song and dance...
First Verse:
Oh, do you know the muffin man, The muffin man, the muffin man, Oh, do you know the muffin man, That lives on Drury Lane?
Second Verse:
Oh, yes, I know the muffin man, The muffin man, the muffin man, Oh, yes, I know the muffin man, That lives on Drury Lane.
More Second Verse Responses:
Now two of us know the muffin man, The muffin man, the muffin man, Now two of us know the muffin man, That lives on Drury Lane.
A few of us know the muffin man, The muffin man, the muffin man, A few of us know the muffin man, That lives on Drury Lane.
Now we all know the muffin man, The muffin man, the muffin man, Now we all know the muffin man, That lives on Drury Lane.
Always good to check in at MB...
What about the eggman?
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Oh great, now the whole building thinks I'm nuts as I chortle uncontrolably in my office!
My thought after posting was...hopefully I don't have to sing it to him, no one deserves that kind of pain <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> And then I pop on and hopeful has done just that! ROTFLMAO!!
Feels kinda like kindergarten...2long, quit hogging all the paste!!
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H4F:
For me, it was the fingerpaints!
But I'm still not sure JL will get it. After all, he was pretty much all alone when HE was little. The world may have 6 billion people in it NOW, but when JL was a kid?
So... I have a request. Get the karaoke fired up, get as many people from the office in your cubicle ( <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> ) and record him a nice MPEG, okay?
Maybe it'll make it in2 the MB archives? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> -ol' 2long (ac2ally, the song came out after I was grown up, 2, I think).
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Hey Hopeful and Hope4Future....As the mother of an almost 2 year old who is addicted to the same 2 Barney and Wiggles DVD's, I am quite confident that we can all now thank you for planting that song in our brains - we'll be singing it the rest of the day now!!!!
Brit's Brat/BS-42 STBXH-43 DS-21 months Status: Divorce filed 7/8/03 on 3rd Anniversary
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Glad to help out, Brit! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I'm one of those odd sorts who loves to come up with lyrics for all kinds of things. And I can name that tune in very few notes! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
BTW, Do you know...the way to San Jose? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Oh 2long, JL is gonna whack you with his cane (or do wheelchair burnouts on you) for saying that!!!
I'm not in a cubicle...I have my own computer sales and repair business out of an office downtown. It's an old grocery store that closed, and they built it into a mini mall. So I'd have to get the insurance lady across the hall, the little jewelry store lady, the music teacher (yup, I get piano lessons next door), the real estate dude...and the most difficult one...the securities guy. I just can't see him singing that song in his 3 piece suit. Not very dignified!!
Brits Brat! I hear what you're saying! My almost 5 year old does that to me all the time!
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Fingerpaints, 2L? I DON'T THINK SO! Back then it was stone tablets and chisels! ROTFLOL!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
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SC:
Naw, it wasn't chisels and stone tablets...
...my parents wouldn't let me use the chisels. I kept dulling the copper!
-2long
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Ummm!
I would like to let you know that my deep interest in the universe is because I was around when some of it was forming. Further, I didn't realize we were talking about TUNES as you refer to them. However, since you mentioned it, I do believe I do remember the urchins in my house singing that TUNE. Mercifully, they have advanced to RAP. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />
So Please Please Please spare me Barney. I will do anything,but not Barney. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
Actually, I was a big fan of "THE COUNT". Loved his songs. No I don't mean BASSIE, I mean "the street". See I'm cool. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
But, 2Long when it comes to fossils, it takes one to know one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
You folks are just too much. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
God Bless,
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JL:
"One-2-three-four-five-six-seven-eight-nine-ten-eleven-twe- e-e- e-e- e-e- elve - TWELVE!"
-2long P.S. But 2day, of course, is broght 2 you by the number "2!!"
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JL:
People on here might think of us as dinosaurs, or something, but in truth, agewise, it's more like we're comparable 2 Streptelasma.
-2long (I'll let you look that one up).
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Hm... must of been one of my famous thread-killers.
Okay, lazybones!
Streptelasma was a Rugose Coral from the Ordovician. (that's a long time ago, before Dinosaurs by a bunch). A solitary coral that kind of looks like the planet crusher from Star Trek (2MCM gets 2 look THAT one up!).
Rugose corals are extinct, unlike JL and myself (we're just dormant, but the clock IS ticking!) -ol' 2long
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Doormat??? Oh! Dormant!
Well, I don't know I seem to be growing these days.
2L, I hope you are not expecting to find one of those things where you are going?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> On the other hand, it would be soooooo cool if you did. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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