Wow! I have been around here for a couple of years, posting VERY rarely, but reading almost daily. And I've got to say I have hardly ever seen such rediculous behavior. All of you who are having conversations with each other about MG, need to start your own thread. If you think she is genuine in wanting help, help her. If you don't, don't open her post. It's pretty simple. Those who desire to reach out and maybe be the one that pulls her from her self destructive tendencies (if that is what you think they are) then help her. She seems open to kind responses. And everyone else move on.

I think some people don't know the story behind all this. If not, do a search on the Emotional Needs board and start reading.

Some of the folks here spent huge amounts of time trying to help MG and it wasn't until about a year and a half that this has finally come to a head.

I can appreciate an informed opinion like Jilliana's, even if I disagree.

Trust me, my post did not come lightly. Then, if you think all this is ridiculous, read and reread and try to see the year plus of caring posts and I don't just mean mine.

At this point, I've reached my boundary. I KNOW I've said more than enough and I don't think my position is that difficult to see.

If you are offended by these posts, why do you read them? That's your suggestion. Please take your own advice. (This does not apply to Jilliana, because I think she's demonstrating the same care in her posts that I am by mine.)

ZP <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Okay, I'm the thing that wouldn't shut up. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Here are some of my political bases:

Terms of Service (TOS) agreement when we sign up:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this BB to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law. You agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyright is owned by you or by this BB.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">MG has lit into more than one poster, posted profanity and vulgar descriptions. Many of her threads have been closed and she's received a number of warnings from the mods.

By Jilliana
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> MG's behaviour and posts make it clear to me that she is hurting very much inside right now, and probably feels very alone. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is a public internet support group and she has as much right to post here as anyone else does? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">MG has said she has a great RL support network.

This is a privately owned website. It is public in that any member (except those banned) can post to it. She does have the right to post here as long as she is allowed by the mods.

By Aeri
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have a feeling that MG has psychological problems that stem from her childhood, rather than just her marriage. This would explain her behaviour here.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It is suggested that in a case where there are serious psychological problems a person abandon MB and seek professional help, returning to the principles when that is dealt with. She has sought professional help, and I am glad for that, but I do not think it is squared.

In my last effort to help MG, I implored her to get GOOD help. On my boundary, I stopped trying to help MG. I am sticking to that. I am still defending this perspective because I think it's the best thing MG can do right now. This is not about myself, Committed, Star*fish, or Aeri. This is about MG.

Petals

<small>[ December 02, 2003, 09:44 PM: Message edited by: Zuzus_Petals ]</small>

Right. We got it Petals, thanks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If you are offended by these posts, why do you read them? That's your suggestion. Please take your own advice. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh yes, heaven forbid anyone *dare* distract attention away from these wonderfully productive "bring attention to what a complete FREAK MG is" threads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

Carry on. Having fun everyone? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

MG,

Why comment on people drawing attention to your threads? If you were truly concerned about that, you would have *NEVER* posted this.

Y'know, I gave you the benefit of a doubt on the thread about the casual sex where you asked if someone who had sex with you once or twice a month
could have real "feelings" for you......At first, I was tempted to ask:

"so when did you meet him, MG"....

...but, I didn't because I thought it was a disrespectful judgement. Sure enough, my suspicions were correct....

Anyone who wasn't psychologically disturbed would have *NEVER* posted a question like that because the motive behind it is so transparent.

You need *HELP*. Your marriage was only PART of your problem!

Ladies,

The simple truth is that if mg's transgressions were serious enough the moderators would ban her.....goodness knows she's been reported enough by others. She's still here. If you are uncomfortable with any of her future posts....that's the way to show your concerns. I have no doubt that if she posts irresponsibly again that some action will be taken....so let it go.

Mg,

I have a suggestion. Why not go to the D/D board? Since your marriage is ending that would be a good place for you to post and I bet that you will find other people who feel as though leaving their marriages was the right choice for them. You know that you can write me off board if you ever need me. Let me know if you need my email.

Blessings to all.

<small>[ December 03, 2003, 06:58 AM: Message edited by: star*fish ]</small>