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#3004629 06/16/18 09:24 AM
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My wife had an online affair a 6 years ago. I exposed to her family (her mom, brother & my family).
Since that time, she & my family have had no contact at all. She won't make the first move, neither will my family.
My mother inlaw stayed with us a few weeks & I guess my wife had a talk with her about some of this.
When my mother inlaw went back home, my wife confronted me on a few things.
Saying that she is resentful that I told her family about what she did. That it should have been something only between she & I.
She said that I could have ruined her relationship with her family & that she may never be able to be in contact with my family ever again due to the shame.
She wanted me to apologize for doing this, saying that she already apologized to me. I apologized, but I didnt understand why.
I was just wondering if I did something wrong by exposing to her family.
I feel like I am made to feel guilty for something she should take care of, which is make everything right with her family & mine.

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Can I ask what you apologized for? It is wrong to have an affair, but it is not wrong to expose an affair. The more people who know, the better. She is not making you feel guilty, she is trying to SHAME you for exposing her affair.

Anger over exposure is typically due to the fog. The fog is a result of an affair. Is she still in an affair? Have you affair proofed your marriage? Do you have full access to all of her devices?

The larger problem is that are both still talking about this 6 years later and don't seem to have recovered your marriage. Can we help you with that?


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Well she wanted me to apologize for telling her family, that it damaged her relationship with them. I think her mother talked to her about this & is part of this thinking too.
When I exposed to her mom, her mom was initially shocked. But I learned later that her mom felt that I exposed in order to hurt them. Which I find hard to understand.
Anyway, I apologized for hurting her family by exposing. I didnt know what else to do or say.
In the past 6 years we've grown apart, obvioulsy we were before this. We had issues before this episode.
My wife is a diva in a way. She has admitted that she thinks she deserves special treatment & that she is the princess of the house.
This has caused a lot of tension for me, but I dont argue or become vocal about it. But she gets angry at me for a lot of things now days....taking out the garbage, me spending too much time by myself, or me going to see my family too much.

Im not sure if she is currently doing anything. I dont keep tabs or watch her. Part of me doesnt want to do that & another part of me feels like I have failed our relationship.
Ive seen so many other people go thru this stuff too. I dont know if I even want to keep this going. Maybe it is best that Im not married anymore.

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Originally Posted by jrjr1
Well she wanted me to apologize for telling her family, that it damaged her relationship with them. I think her mother talked to her about this & is part of this thinking too.

What damaged the relationship was her affair. if you had exposed that she won an award for "Best Person of the Year" it would not have damaged her relationships. It is unfortunate she had an affair.

An affair is very damaging to a marriage. Most marriages do not recover because they have no plan of recovery. As a result they limp along in a crippled state that is worse than the pre-affair marriage. Your marriage is at high risk of experiencing another affair because of this.

You don't have to be like this, though. My suggestion would be to read the book Surviving an Affair and selling her on the prospect of recovering your marriage. Marriage Builders is very different from other programs in that it gives you a step by step program to fall in love again. Being in love is the best medicine for your marriage. People in love don't get divorced.


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Originally Posted by jrjr1
When I exposed to her mom, her mom was initially shocked. But I learned later that her mom felt that I exposed in order to hurt them. Which I find hard to understand.

Who told you this? Your wife?


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley, clinical psychologist and founder of Marriage Builders
The plan I recommend for recovery after an affair is very specific. That's because I've found that even small deviations from that plan are usually disastrous. But when it's followed, it always works. The plan has two parts that must be implemented sequentially. The first part of the plan is for the unfaithful spouse to completely separate from the lover and eliminate the conditions that made the affair possible. The second part is for the couple to create a romantic relationship, using my Basic Concepts as a guide.

I'll describe these two parts to you in a little more detail.

The first step, complete separation from the lover and eliminating the conditions that made the affair possible, requires a complete understanding of the affair. All information regarding the affair must be revealed to the betrayed spouse, including the name of the lover, the conditions that made the affair possible (travel, internet, etc.), the details of what took place during the affair, all correspondence, and anything else that would shed light on the tragedy.

This information is important for two reasons: (1) it creates accountability and transparency, making it essentially impossible for the unfaithful spouse to continue the affair or begin a new one unnoticed, and (2) it creates trust for the betrayed spouse, providing evidence that the affair is over and a new one is unlikely to take its place. The nightmares you experience are likely to continue until you have the facts that
will lead to your assurance that your husband can be trusted.

An analysis of the wayward spouse's childhood or emotional state of mind in an effort to discover why he or she would have an affair is distracting and unnecessary. It takes precious time away from finding the real solutions. I know why people have affairs: We are all wired for it. Given certain conditions, we would all do it. Given other conditions, however, none of us would do it. So the goal of the first step is to discover the conditions that made the affair possible and eliminate them.

After the first step is completed, the second step is to create a romantic relationship between you and your husband using my 10 Basic Concepts here
as your guide. While your relationship may be improving, it won't lead to a romantic relationship because you are not being transparent toward each other. Unspoken issues in a marital relationship lead to a superficiality that ruins romance.

<snip unrelated>

Infidelity is not something that can be swept under the rug. While those who have affairs want to forget about it and move on, those who are betrayed must take very specific steps before they can fully recover. In your case, those steps have not been taken, and as a result, your fear persists. I will send you a complimentary copy of my book, "Surviving an Affair," if you send me your address. It will describe these two steps to you and provide you with a roadmap toward full recovery. But the path will require full disclosure of all details.

Best wishes,

Willard F. Harley, Jr.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Originally Posted by jrjr1
When I exposed to her mom, her mom was initially shocked. But I learned later that her mom felt that I exposed in order to hurt them. Which I find hard to understand.

Who told you this? Your wife?

I think she did. Or I was still snooping around at the time & read it in a conversation between the two.
It was hurtful to think her mom thought I was just trying to hurt them by exposing.
I believe my wife had convinced them of this though in order to do damage control.
To this day I'm not sure what story her family knows. I dont think her dad knew any of what happened before he passed away.
I think she & her mom lied to her dad about our brief separation.

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Waywards and their (sometimes) enabling parents boggle my mind.
I invite others to chime in but the most I would give them is "I exposed the affair to put an end to it. I am sorry for the pain this may have caused, but it was the right thing to do to save our marriage, and I would do it again in a second."

If you value fidelity in your marriage, then don't be sorry for this jr.
Not for one second bucko, you made the right call.


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jrjr1 #3005568 08/05/18 06:43 PM
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My MIL is back visiting (staying) with us...which has already been 2 weeks. She had surgery on a knee the last time she was here & was here initially for a follow up appointment.
This time they said she has to have surgery on her leg again & will probably be here for a few more weeks....
I'm sure she & my wife have been talking more this time too. My MIL is an subtle enabler & I can see where my wife gets her attitude...and even worse, her sense of entitlement.
My MIL did this kind of crap to her husband for 50 years of marriage......he did everything for her.
My wife & MIL are like two colluding hussies...they talk several times a day either by phone or text. Im sure my wife shares every little detail about our lives with her.

When my MIL leaves this time, I bet we'll have a talk again...about this & other stuff too.
I know where this is going...Im eventually leaving the relationship. Ive had enough. I don't value what we have together in order to put my family thru this anymore.
My family (mother, father etc) hasn't had contact with my wife for 6 years now. My wife blames me for that....since I made them aware of what she was doing at the time.....and that she can't look them in the face now.
I know that is all BS from her though...my parents shouldnt have to be the one stepping up to the plate.....its her that should do all the heavy lifting.
But she can't see that, she thinks its all them. She lives in a fantasy world of facebook, bachelorette tv shows & other useless nonsense. My wife thinks she deserves to be put on a pedestal like the princess she is.

This wasn't the first time she had a questionable outside relationship while being married.
The affair stuff is just extra baggage on top of all the other stuff Ive gone thru being with her. Im tired of all the BS....the mind games Ive had to play with her.
Her constant attempt of testing me in order to "straighten me out" and getting me to think of her as a princess & ruler of the house.
I just dont care anymore. When I am single life will be better & I can be around my family openly & not be afraid of what my spouse thinks.

I hate that Ive allowed this to affect my parents in such a negative way. They are in their 70s & dont know what to do. They dont deserve this at all.
They have been there for me though in a very supportive way. They have never gotten involved in the marriage relationship like my MIL has with my wife.
Ive let this mess linger on too long.
(I apologize for the venting.)

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