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Sorry this is a bit long - you know how it is, you always think of something else you want to say & add it on. My wife & I havn't sorted things out yet - I'll let you know whether the poem worked.<P>FORGET, FORGIVE, & LIVE<P>There can be good times straight ahead, If we just think and try,<BR>Not to dwell on what’s gone wrong, But on the reasons why,<P>There’s time ahead for hearts to heal, if time we choose to give,<BR>And a life of love to gather up, if that life we choose to give.<P>There’s a history of stupid lies, of selfishness & needs,<BR>And a history filled with bitter doubt, That both our hearts now bleed,<P>But a history that’s filled with good times too,<BR>With laughter, love and caring,<BR>We’ve moved along so far it seems,<BR>The future I see I’m daring…..,<P>To feel that we can still be fine, a family and a team,<BR>With love and conversation, and a new, much better dream,<BR>To focus on our family needs, much greater than our own,<BR>On how to make each of us reach, the potential they have shown, <P>A good life’s achieved by working hard, By many separate things,<BR>Some come quickly, some take time, And ups & downs they bring,<BR>Mistakes are made, some big some small, but as our history gets longer,<BR>These things that come to try us, will make our bond much stronger.<P>The only failure would now be, for us to say it’s finished,<BR>We’ve only done 100m, there’s a marathon; let’s win it.<P>Swapping current hurdles, for those that come with others,<BR>Isn’t just a swap at all, your hurdles will be doubled,<BR>You’ll have the pain & hardship that losing us will bring,<BR>And if it doesn’t work without, you’ll not get back within.<P><BR>I know I’ve made some daft decisions, I’m only learning now,<BR>That selfishness is not the way, but I’ll find that way – somehow.<P>If you can put your trust in me, I know it won’t be easy,<BR>But I promise I will make it work, although we might feel queasy.<BR>You’ll not feel that you’ve settled, for a poor old second best,<BR>Cos overall the love we have, of time will stand the test,<P>There’ll be chances in the future that come across to tempt us,<BR>We need to stay so wide awake, and start to now pre-empt us,<BR>By talking over fears & pain, and holding close each other,<BR>Work it through and move it forward, careful not to smother,<P>The overpowering feeling, should be one of love, <BR>And that you want to make it better, handled with kid gloves.<P>Our feelings should be nurtured, positive ones encouraged, <BR>Negatives washed lovingly away, but none of them disparaged.<P>There’s hurt & pain, and we’re both scared,<BR>That again we’ll lose our way,<BR>But there’s a new resolve here now, new priorities at play.<P>You cannot solve a problem if you don’t know what it is,<BR>But now they’re out and talked about, our lives could be the biz.<BR>I hope that Sean is genuine, as he’s clearly got you believing,<BR>But for a man called blacker cat, it’s a huge risk to be leaving,<P>He’s new & interesting right now, and full of great ideas,<BR>Of promises of marriage, and of laying low your fears,<BR>There are hang-ups to address here too, and three lives to consider,<BR>Are you prepared to handle these, in the hope that he’ll deliver?<P>He’ll say whatever’s needed to get what he thinks will give him,<BR>Ready made perfection, a good life in which to fit in,<BR>He’s tried to start his own life, but hasn’t found the right one,<BR>Are you prepared to run around to turn his long term light on?<P>And so he finds a lovely girl, who’s starting to be happy, <BR>With gorgeous kids, she loves to bits, when his life’s been a bit crappy,<BR>He sees what he would like to have, and sees you have your issues,<BR>So in his caring manner, provides the shoulder & tissues,<P>I hope & pray that if you go, it’s worth the risk you'll take,<BR>Cos though I’ve tried to like him, I still believe he’s fake,<BR>I don’t believe he’ll understand what you & our kids need,<BR>And the potential we could work for will not be truly freed.<P>You have so much you can achieve, and I want for you to realise,<BR>The things I’ve not been listening to, that money never buys,<BR>Has he the time and patience, for the life you want to lead,<BR>To let slide what he’s yearning for, if that’s what it would need?<P>And when he’s got what he currently wants, and reality starts to bite,<BR>What was a good idea in theory, becomes a cause to fight,<BR>Three people with brand new concerns, and needing long term caring,<BR>How quickly will attention drift, who’ll do most of the sharing?<P>He can walk away, from kids who aren’t his own,<BR>And a girl who put faith out again, and now who’s all alone,<P>You know that I’ll support our kids, in whatever way I can,<BR>I’ll give what I can offer, I’m their Dad, and a good man,<BR>But if you leave I’ll never, feel like the way I do,<BR>I will be truly broken, and may never get over you.<BR> <BR>It’s all just too important, what we have & this new start,<BR>We can achieve together, more than we ever could apart.<BR>Forgiveness is a time based word, and will not take forever, <BR>But I think we can heal it best, if we heal it together<P>I never doubted my love for you, and I never will,<BR>I look and think of you & me, and my heart beats stronger still,<BR>There will be times when we are low, when it seems we might not make it,<BR>But looking at what we’ve achieved, we’ll never now mistake it.<P>We’ve a real true chance at happiness, despite what’s gone before,<BR>Time will heal what we’ve both done, and show us so much more,<P>What turns out to be best of all, could be the thing that’s wasted,<BR>If we just say well bugger it, cos others’ promises we’ve tasted,<BR>It is worth building trust back up, with the right love and devotion,<BR>To save these years of working hard, a special fixing potion,<P>Ingredients of positives, moving each one forward,<BR>Learning to be strong again, being cared for & supported,<BR>This is an opportunity, for us to put it right,<BR>Wipe the messy old slate clean; turn out the past’s dark light.<P>Please take this poem as from my heart, torn a little it may be,<BR>There’s plenty love not yet spilled out, please spend your life with me.<P> There can be good times straight ahead, If we just think and try;<BR>Not to dwell on what’s gone wrong, But on the reasons why,<P>There’s time ahead for hearts to heal, if time we choose to give,<BR>And a life of love to gather up, if that life we choose to live.<P>There’s a history though, of stupid lies, of selfishness in needs,<BR>A history filled with bitter doubt, and both our hearts now bleed,<P>But a history filled with good times too,<BR>With laughter, love and caring,<BR>We’ve moved along so far it seems,<BR>The future now I’m daring.........,<P>To feel that we can still be fine, a family and a team,<BR>With love and conversation, and a new, much better dream,<P>To focus on our family needs, much greater than our own,<BR>On how to make each of us reach, the potential they have shown, <P>A good life’s achieved by working hard, By many separate things,<BR>Some come quickly, some take time, And ups & downs they bring,<BR>Mistakes are made, some big some small, but once our history's longer,<BR>These things that come to try us, will make our bond much stronger.<P>The only failure would now be, for us to say it’s finished,<BR>We’ve only done 100m, it's a marathon; let’s win it.<P>Swapping current hurdles, for those that come with others,<BR>Isn’t just a swap at all, your hurdles will be doubled,<BR>You’ll have the pain & hardship that losing us will bring,<BR>And if it doesn’t work without, you’ll not get back within.<P><BR>I know I’ve made some daft decisions, I’m only learning now,<BR>That selfishness is not the way, but I’ll find that way – somehow.<P>If you can put your trust in me; I know it won’t be easy,<BR>But I promise I will make it work, although we might feel queasy.<BR>You’ll not feel that you’ve settled, for a poor old second best,<BR>Cos overall the love we have, of time will stand the test,<P>There’ll be situations coming that'll sneak along to tempt us,<BR>We need to stay so wide awake, and start to now pre-empt us,<BR>By talking over fears & pains, and holding close each other,<BR>Work it through and move it forward, careful not to smother,<P>The overpowering feeling, should be that of real love, <BR>That what we have is precious, to be handled with kid gloves.<P>Our feelings should be nurtured, positive ones encouraged, <BR>Negatives washed lovingly away, but none of them disparaged.<P>There’s hurt & pain, and we’re both scared,<BR>That again we’ll lose our way,<BR>But there’s a new resolve here now, new priorities at play.<P>You cannot solve a problem if you don’t know what it is,<BR>But now they’re out and talked about, our lives could be the biz.<P>I hope that HE is genuine, as he’s clearly got you believing,<BR>But for a man called blacker cat, it’s a huge risk to be leaving,<P>He’s new & interesting right now, and full of great ideas,<BR>Of promises of marriage, and of laying low your fears,<BR>There are hang-ups to address here too, and three lives to consider,<BR>Are you prepared to handle these, in the hope that he’ll deliver?<P>He’ll say whatever’s needed to get what he thinks will give him,<BR>Ready made perfection, a good life in which to fit in,<BR>He’s tried to start his own life, but hasn’t found the right one,<BR>Are you prepared to run around to turn his long term light on?<P>And so he finds a lovely girl, who’s starting to be happy, <BR>With gorgeous kids, she loves to bits, when his life’s been so crappy,<BR>He sees what he would like to have, and sees you have your issues,<BR>So in his caring manner, provides the shoulder & tissues,<P>I hope & pray that if you go, it’s worth the risk you'll take,<BR>Cos though I’ve tried to like him, I still believe he’s fake,<BR>I don’t believe he’ll understand what you & our kids need,<BR>And the potential we could work for will not be truly freed.<P>You have so much you can achieve, and I want for you to realise,<BR>The things I’ve not been listening to, that money never buys,<BR>Has he the time and patience, for the life you want to lead,<BR>To let slide what he’s yearning for, if that’s what it would need?<P>And when he’s got what he CURRENTLY wants, and reality starts to bite,<BR>What was a good idea in theory, becomes a cause to fight,<BR>Three people with brand new concerns, and needing long term caring,<BR>How quickly will attention drift, who’ll do most of the sharing?<P>He can walk away with ease, from kids who aren’t his own,<BR>And a girl who put faith out again, and now who’s all alone,<P>You know that I’ll support our kids, in whatever way I can,<BR>I’ll give what I can offer, I’m their Dad, and a good man,<P>But if you leave I think I’ll never, feel like the way I do,<BR>I will be truly broken, and may never get over you.<BR> <BR>It’s all just too important, what we have & this new start,<BR>We can achieve together, more than we ever could apart.<P>Forgiveness is a time based word, and will not take forever, <BR>But I think we can heal it best, if we heal it together<P>I never doubted my love for you, and I never will,<BR>I look and think of you & me, and my heart beats stronger still,<BR>There will be times when we are low, when it seems we might not make it,<BR>But looking at what we’ve achieved, we’ll never now mistake it.<P>We’ve a real true chance at happiness, despite what’s gone before,<BR>Time will heal what we’ve both done, and show us so much more,<P>What turns out to be best of all, could be the thing that’s wasted,<BR>If we just say "Well, bugger it", cos others’ promises we’ve tasted,<P>It IS worth building trust back up, with the right love and devotion,<BR>To save these years of working hard, a special fixing potion,<P>Ingredients of positives, moving each one forward,<BR>Learning to be strong again, being cared for & supported,<P>This is an opportunity, for us to put it right,<BR>Wipe the messy old slate clean; turn out our pasts' dark light.<P>Please take this poem as from my heart, torn though it may be,<BR>There’s plenty love not yet spilled out, please spend your life with me. <BR>

#334212 12/31/00 05:48 PM
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WOW! Awesome, my feelings exactly!<BR>Thanks<BR>Firefly<P><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by McBroon:<BR><B>Sorry this is a bit long - you know how it is, you always think of something else you want to say & add it on. My wife & I havn't sorted things out yet - I'll let you know whether the poem worked.<P>FORGET, FORGIVE, & LIVE<P>There can be good times straight ahead, If we just think and try,<BR>Not to dwell on what’s gone wrong, But on the reasons why,<P>There’s time ahead for hearts to heal, if time we choose to give,<BR>And a life of love to gather up, if that life we choose to give.<P>There’s a history of stupid lies, of selfishness & needs,<BR>And a history filled with bitter doubt, That both our hearts now bleed,<P>But a history that’s filled with good times too,<BR>With laughter, love and caring,<BR>We’ve moved along so far it seems,<BR>The future I see I’m daring…..,<P>To feel that we can still be fine, a family and a team,<BR>With love and conversation, and a new, much better dream,<BR>To focus on our family needs, much greater than our own,<BR>On how to make each of us reach, the potential they have shown, <P>A good life’s achieved by working hard, By many separate things,<BR>Some come quickly, some take time, And ups & downs they bring,<BR>Mistakes are made, some big some small, but as our history gets longer,<BR>These things that come to try us, will make our bond much stronger.<P>The only failure would now be, for us to say it’s finished,<BR>We’ve only done 100m, there’s a marathon; let’s win it.<P>Swapping current hurdles, for those that come with others,<BR>Isn’t just a swap at all, your hurdles will be doubled,<BR>You’ll have the pain & hardship that losing us will bring,<BR>And if it doesn’t work without, you’ll not get back within.<P><BR>I know I’ve made some daft decisions, I’m only learning now,<BR>That selfishness is not the way, but I’ll find that way – somehow.<P>If you can put your trust in me, I know it won’t be easy,<BR>But I promise I will make it work, although we might feel queasy.<BR>You’ll not feel that you’ve settled, for a poor old second best,<BR>Cos overall the love we have, of time will stand the test,<P>There’ll be chances in the future that come across to tempt us,<BR>We need to stay so wide awake, and start to now pre-empt us,<BR>By talking over fears & pain, and holding close each other,<BR>Work it through and move it forward, careful not to smother,<P>The overpowering feeling, should be one of love, <BR>And that you want to make it better, handled with kid gloves.<P>Our feelings should be nurtured, positive ones encouraged, <BR>Negatives washed lovingly away, but none of them disparaged.<P>There’s hurt & pain, and we’re both scared,<BR>That again we’ll lose our way,<BR>But there’s a new resolve here now, new priorities at play.<P>You cannot solve a problem if you don’t know what it is,<BR>But now they’re out and talked about, our lives could be the biz.<BR>I hope that Sean is genuine, as he’s clearly got you believing,<BR>But for a man called blacker cat, it’s a huge risk to be leaving,<P>He’s new & interesting right now, and full of great ideas,<BR>Of promises of marriage, and of laying low your fears,<BR>There are hang-ups to address here too, and three lives to consider,<BR>Are you prepared to handle these, in the hope that he’ll deliver?<P>He’ll say whatever’s needed to get what he thinks will give him,<BR>Ready made perfection, a good life in which to fit in,<BR>He’s tried to start his own life, but hasn’t found the right one,<BR>Are you prepared to run around to turn his long term light on?<P>And so he finds a lovely girl, who’s starting to be happy, <BR>With gorgeous kids, she loves to bits, when his life’s been a bit crappy,<BR>He sees what he would like to have, and sees you have your issues,<BR>So in his caring manner, provides the shoulder & tissues,<P>I hope & pray that if you go, it’s worth the risk you'll take,<BR>Cos though I’ve tried to like him, I still believe he’s fake,<BR>I don’t believe he’ll understand what you & our kids need,<BR>And the potential we could work for will not be truly freed.<P>You have so much you can achieve, and I want for you to realise,<BR>The things I’ve not been listening to, that money never buys,<BR>Has he the time and patience, for the life you want to lead,<BR>To let slide what he’s yearning for, if that’s what it would need?<P>And when he’s got what he currently wants, and reality starts to bite,<BR>What was a good idea in theory, becomes a cause to fight,<BR>Three people with brand new concerns, and needing long term caring,<BR>How quickly will attention drift, who’ll do most of the sharing?<P>He can walk away, from kids who aren’t his own,<BR>And a girl who put faith out again, and now who’s all alone,<P>You know that I’ll support our kids, in whatever way I can,<BR>I’ll give what I can offer, I’m their Dad, and a good man,<BR>But if you leave I’ll never, feel like the way I do,<BR>I will be truly broken, and may never get over you.<BR> <BR>It’s all just too important, what we have & this new start,<BR>We can achieve together, more than we ever could apart.<BR>Forgiveness is a time based word, and will not take forever, <BR>But I think we can heal it best, if we heal it together<P>I never doubted my love for you, and I never will,<BR>I look and think of you & me, and my heart beats stronger still,<BR>There will be times when we are low, when it seems we might not make it,<BR>But looking at what we’ve achieved, we’ll never now mistake it.<P>We’ve a real true chance at happiness, despite what’s gone before,<BR>Time will heal what we’ve both done, and show us so much more,<P>What turns out to be best of all, could be the thing that’s wasted,<BR>If we just say well bugger it, cos others’ promises we’ve tasted,<BR>It is worth building trust back up, with the right love and devotion,<BR>To save these years of working hard, a special fixing potion,<P>Ingredients of positives, moving each one forward,<BR>Learning to be strong again, being cared for & supported,<BR>This is an opportunity, for us to put it right,<BR>Wipe the messy old slate clean; turn out the past’s dark light.<P>Please take this poem as from my heart, torn a little it may be,<BR>There’s plenty love not yet spilled out, please spend your life with me.<P> There can be good times straight ahead, If we just think and try;<BR>Not to dwell on what’s gone wrong, But on the reasons why,<P>There’s time ahead for hearts to heal, if time we choose to give,<BR>And a life of love to gather up, if that life we choose to live.<P>There’s a history though, of stupid lies, of selfishness in needs,<BR>A history filled with bitter doubt, and both our hearts now bleed,<P>But a history filled with good times too,<BR>With laughter, love and caring,<BR>We’ve moved along so far it seems,<BR>The future now I’m daring.........,<P>To feel that we can still be fine, a family and a team,<BR>With love and conversation, and a new, much better dream,<P>To focus on our family needs, much greater than our own,<BR>On how to make each of us reach, the potential they have shown, <P>A good life’s achieved by working hard, By many separate things,<BR>Some come quickly, some take time, And ups & downs they bring,<BR>Mistakes are made, some big some small, but once our history's longer,<BR>These things that come to try us, will make our bond much stronger.<P>The only failure would now be, for us to say it’s finished,<BR>We’ve only done 100m, it's a marathon; let’s win it.<P>Swapping current hurdles, for those that come with others,<BR>Isn’t just a swap at all, your hurdles will be doubled,<BR>You’ll have the pain & hardship that losing us will bring,<BR>And if it doesn’t work without, you’ll not get back within.<P><BR>I know I’ve made some daft decisions, I’m only learning now,<BR>That selfishness is not the way, but I’ll find that way – somehow.<P>If you can put your trust in me; I know it won’t be easy,<BR>But I promise I will make it work, although we might feel queasy.<BR>You’ll not feel that you’ve settled, for a poor old second best,<BR>Cos overall the love we have, of time will stand the test,<P>There’ll be situations coming that'll sneak along to tempt us,<BR>We need to stay so wide awake, and start to now pre-empt us,<BR>By talking over fears & pains, and holding close each other,<BR>Work it through and move it forward, careful not to smother,<P>The overpowering feeling, should be that of real love, <BR>That what we have is precious, to be handled with kid gloves.<P>Our feelings should be nurtured, positive ones encouraged, <BR>Negatives washed lovingly away, but none of them disparaged.<P>There’s hurt & pain, and we’re both scared,<BR>That again we’ll lose our way,<BR>But there’s a new resolve here now, new priorities at play.<P>You cannot solve a problem if you don’t know what it is,<BR>But now they’re out and talked about, our lives could be the biz.<P>I hope that HE is genuine, as he’s clearly got you believing,<BR>But for a man called blacker cat, it’s a huge risk to be leaving,<P>He’s new & interesting right now, and full of great ideas,<BR>Of promises of marriage, and of laying low your fears,<BR>There are hang-ups to address here too, and three lives to consider,<BR>Are you prepared to handle these, in the hope that he’ll deliver?<P>He’ll say whatever’s needed to get what he thinks will give him,<BR>Ready made perfection, a good life in which to fit in,<BR>He’s tried to start his own life, but hasn’t found the right one,<BR>Are you prepared to run around to turn his long term light on?<P>And so he finds a lovely girl, who’s starting to be happy, <BR>With gorgeous kids, she loves to bits, when his life’s been so crappy,<BR>He sees what he would like to have, and sees you have your issues,<BR>So in his caring manner, provides the shoulder & tissues,<P>I hope & pray that if you go, it’s worth the risk you'll take,<BR>Cos though I’ve tried to like him, I still believe he’s fake,<BR>I don’t believe he’ll understand what you & our kids need,<BR>And the potential we could work for will not be truly freed.<P>You have so much you can achieve, and I want for you to realise,<BR>The things I’ve not been listening to, that money never buys,<BR>Has he the time and patience, for the life you want to lead,<BR>To let slide what he’s yearning for, if that’s what it would need?<P>And when he’s got what he CURRENTLY wants, and reality starts to bite,<BR>What was a good idea in theory, becomes a cause to fight,<BR>Three people with brand new concerns, and needing long term caring,<BR>How quickly will attention drift, who’ll do most of the sharing?<P>He can walk away with ease, from kids who aren’t his own,<BR>And a girl who put faith out again, and now who’s all alone,<P>You know that I’ll support our kids, in whatever way I can,<BR>I’ll give what I can offer, I’m their Dad, and a good man,<P>But if you leave I think I’ll never, feel like the way I do,<BR>I will be truly broken, and may never get over you.<BR> <BR>It’s all just too important, what we have & this new start,<BR>We can achieve together, more than we ever could apart.<P>Forgiveness is a time based word, and will not take forever, <BR>But I think we can heal it best, if we heal it together<P>I never doubted my love for you, and I never will,<BR>I look and think of you & me, and my heart beats stronger still,<BR>There will be times when we are low, when it seems we might not make it,<BR>But looking at what we’ve achieved, we’ll never now mistake it.<P>We’ve a real true chance at happiness, despite what’s gone before,<BR>Time will heal what we’ve both done, and show us so much more,<P>What turns out to be best of all, could be the thing that’s wasted,<BR>If we just say "Well, bugger it", cos others’ promises we’ve tasted,<P>It IS worth building trust back up, with the right love and devotion,<BR>To save these years of working hard, a special fixing potion,<P>Ingredients of positives, moving each one forward,<BR>Learning to be strong again, being cared for & supported,<P>This is an opportunity, for us to put it right,<BR>Wipe the messy old slate clean; turn out our pasts' dark light.<P>Please take this poem as from my heart, torn though it may be,<BR>There’s plenty love not yet spilled out, please spend your life with me. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>


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