Maya and others: <P>I need to know why you just hang around if you don't want to do anything to improve the situation. <P>My W says she doesn't feel "that" way about me anymore, but she stays. WHY? <P>She doesn't want physical intimacy, either. Oh sure she will give me what I want, if I take it. But that's not the point. I don't "want" what she won't "give" so therefore, I get nothing. She could care less, but she stays anyway. <P>Sometimes I feel like showing her the door, but the fact is that I am very much "in" love with her and I want to give it more time to see if she will soften that hard heart and return to the marriage in minde, body, and spirit.<P>I just need to know if there are others like you and what it is that makes you feel the way you do. If you have been hurt terribly and are bitter, I can understand. But to continue to stay around and make the OP life bitter too, well, that I can't understand.<P>Ok, let me have it.<P>Flip

You need to read the OTHER posts with my name in the subject title. <P>I'm screwed up, okay? Out of balance, chemically challenged, whatever you wanna call it. <P>No excuse .... but this isn't how I used to be okay? I believe my body is being used by some alien force and I can't control it.<P>Or maybe I'm a drug overdose gone really bad.<P>Happy Thanksgiving. Be thankful you're not in THIS brain of mine.

Thanks for the reply:<P>I hope things do get better for you. I can see a whole lot of good there. It's just a bit covered up right now.<P>Hang in there. And try to have a great weekend, OK? <P>Things WILL get better.<P>Flip

Thanks, Flipper! Right now I'm a news story just waiting to happen!<P>Watch CNN for details.<P>(oh I'm just kiddin'!)<P>Have a great holiday!

Maya:<P>I was curiously checking some of your old posts and I saw you showed interest in the Florida East coast. <P>I'll be spending a couple of weeks around the Cape (Kennedy Space Center) next month. If you need info let me know.<P>I'll try to have a great holiday if you'll try to have one too.<P>I'm leaving for the day now so I'll share more with you later. I really think you have a lot to say that I could benefit from. <P>Hope to talk to you again soon.<P>For now, I'm gone. See Ya.<P>Flip

I know you didn't say your wife is leaving, but some of the "symptoms" may be addressed in Harley's article on Why Women Leave Men:<BR> <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8111_leave.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8111_leave.html</A> <P>I've considered this often and happened upon this article. Showed it to H and he acknowledged that he has heard 8 of 10(?) of the referenced comments from me. Harley wrote it in a perspective that H was able to understand and relate to. Gave us a starting point to introduce MB.<P>Enlightened