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Looks like he will have to take his medicine STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT of you for a while.

But, I guess that is not always possible huh...

I just don't know about the email. Some things that were returned I didn't think were very large.

I am wondering about MY new email...I guess I am just not completely used to it. Yours is the only email that keeps being returned though.

I just NOW changed over to DSL/cable internet from the old AOL dial up that I have had from the beginning.

TOOOOO old to change...you know how that goes. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

<small>[ February 21, 2003, 09:22 AM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>

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How is your daughter handling all of this?

She is a beauty, by the way!!! You better lock her up NOW!

Did you see the post? Have you decided if you are coming to Mardi Gras yet? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

<small>[ February 21, 2003, 09:27 AM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>

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Well .... I always do love a good blow-out party right before Lent! I have to pass on Marti Gras this year. My parents have gone to Marti Gras .... and hated it. \Too many drunks in one place is scary.

The SPQ parade is an entire different matter .... and I am considering it.

H and I took D totherapy last night. It helped. Then we went out to eat to celebrate her honor role certificate she brought home yesterday.

She is as pretty on the inside as she is on the outside. Sweet and caring. We're so blessed.

I am trying really hard not to become an emotional basket case .... but I do let my stress effect my memory as well as my ability to sit still <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> I find myself talking really fast and sort of wandering aimlessly around the house because I can't remember what I started out to do ..... and I say "What did I come in this room to do?" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I am sleeping pretty well.

Son called me on my cell yesterday. Dis not thank me for the things I brought him (clothes, toiletries, books) but proceeded to tell me how much he hates me and how he wishes we had never met .... and far far worse <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Medication please work!

<small>[ February 21, 2003, 10:35 AM: Message edited by: Pepperband ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Dis not thank me for the things I brought him (clothes, toiletries, books) but proceeded to tell me how much he hates me and how he wishes we had never met .... and far far worse </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bless your heart...I am so sorry. Maybe the meds will kick in soon. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

He is now on new meds? Didn't the old ones work well if he just took them? Why change?

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Too many drunks in one place is scary.

The SPQ parade is an entire different matter .... and I am considering it.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You got that right. It scares me. I think it is dangerous.

As for SPQ, just say the word and I'll make the arrangements. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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On second thought....

naaaaaw...maybe you better not come. You might make fun of our southern draaaaawl.

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Pepper:

Please take care. I don't like it when people who've been such a wonderful inspiration to me are having a rough time.

'snot fair.

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I don't like it either. I apologize for making light of anything on this thread...just trying to cheer you up..

I really do hurt with and for you.

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Susan ... he was taking the medication standing right in front of us .... and pretending to swallow and sometimes allowed a mouth inspection afterwards .... it's called "cheeking" and the kids learn how to tuck the pill somewhere in a corner of their mouth and then spit it out later. His therapist told us not to get into his face with a power struggle around the medication, but to allow the natural consequences of his not taking it to unfold.

Jeeze .... damned it ya do, and damned if ya don't.

I have been laughing wildly like a drunk for 2 days. It's my favorite coping mechanism, and my second favorite is crying. Sex comes after crying <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Good grief!

The natural consequences sure are hard on the family though aren't they...not to mention him.

I suppose he has to learn that he has to have his medicine.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I have been laughing wildly like a drunk for 2 days. It's my favorite coping mechanism, and my second favorite is crying. Sex comes after crying </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">((((Pepper))))

At least it is not eating... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

My coping mechanism is sleeping....(and reading these MB forums is an escape for me)

<small>[ February 21, 2003, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: Susan ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Son called me on my cell yesterday. Dis not thank me for the things I brought him (clothes, toiletries, books) but proceeded to tell me how much he hates me and how he wishes we had never met .... and far far worse </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I am sure that this is hard to hear. But, I think it is probably a good sign.

I think it is a sign deep down that he loves you. He feels safe saying it to you because he knows how much you love him. We sometimes take things out on those closest to us. He feels safe taking his pain and anger out on you.

After all, he doesn't have to call you at all does he? And while he was AWOL he called you several times from the pay phone didn't he?

Just goes to show, he was thinking of you. I think he knew how concerned and upset you were.

In his healthy state, I am sure he loves and appreciates you very much.

Part of it has got to be normal "teenager" but in his illness I am sure it gets magnified. I know there were days my son wished he never met me either. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Keep the faith. Take care of yourself.

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I just made an appointment for a facial after work.

This helps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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Good for you! It sure does.

One of my favorite things...and you should plan for it on your "girls weekend retreat"...

We all get together...Each of us has a different task....we do for and to each other...

One does manicure...
Another does pedicure...(summer is coming, get those feet in shape...I have a thing about feet...I love tan feet with polished nails..except I don't have 'em...mine are white <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I gave it up)
Another does facials....
Another does massage...

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It is dreary and rainy here today...

Can you tell I hung around the house *posting* all day? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

My husband did come home with me a surprise today... Bag Balm ...

Can you guess what that is? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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At what age was your son's illness manifested?

Were you dealing with that also during the discovery of Mr. Pep's affair?

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Well ... it became really serious with wrist cutting around age 12.

We were already into recovery about 3 years. If Mr. Pep were not sober and into AA .... we'd be dead in the water. Mr. Pep uses his AA princilpes all the time dealing with this.

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Susan, my email server is on the fritz ... I can't get into it at this time. maybe repairs are being made? I'll check again later.

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Mr. Pep uses his AA princilpes all the time dealing with this.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I use them too, in dealing with lots of things in life....even though I have no known alcoholism in our family.

A good one in your case right now:

"I can't. He can. I'll let Him."

A Higher Power can make Louie well. Turn the results over to Him.

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Pepper:

I hope stuff is getting better over at your place...

I don't know if this will bring a smile or not, but where I "come from" 'AA' designates a Model A Ford Truck! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (mine is only an 'A' however. I wanted a truck!).

"Milady can have her Sport Coupe.
Let the fancies fondle their Phaetons.
And the snobbish are welcome to their Town Cars.
But, Give a MAN a TRUCK!" -from The Restorer Magazine, around 1970 or so.

Ignore me. I seldom know what I'm talking about!
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