We moved this thread over from the divorce forum last week. This is a more appropriate place for it. Anyone whoo would like to join in just let us know.

S&C

Every Wed. we are to pray and fast for one another. Every Weds we can check in and let everyone know we have prayed for the group. Prayer does mighty things and group prayer is even better.

I think it will be great to see how God works in our lives and heals our marriages and us. If you want to pray with us I will be more than happy to add your name to the list below.

Prayer Warriors who are praying and being prayed for: cajunky, Ezra, Willgetthruthis, Godisincontrol, Natasha79, JohnC, c++_guy, Wallace, relady, steadfast and committed, morriggs, lupolady, stillwaiting, Broken Hearted, PasDeDeux, hopeful_person, GinnyF, justpeachy, cry2much, SNL, LostAgain (Dave&April), Dodger, gloriachu, LoveNcare, JMF, WEN, NiteHawk, Absurd, LetSTry, AgainsttheWind, cemmerson, getting better, kellidiane, Terrified, BeeLee, idostylin, Resilient, thiscantbehappening, day by day, Jloves, broken x3, Sue with Hope, sunrise1, shepette, Malc, Faithfulwife, timbo-e, Angelia, FeelingAllAlone, broken_joe, dopey, awake, truly a friend, Is it to late, stilltryingtosaveit, landslide, GODBLESSU, vega, LoyalWarrior, janna-m-r, ferbie, epiphOny, simmy, cajeanie, d_rose, lost_lonely, briank4775, mayflower, Caged_Bird, LunaDove, goldielocks109, darwud, Mrs. darwud, adamv, Army Hubby, Gail (mojodiva)& Shane, bonnie five & H, TryingToKeepHope, Hopeful98, lghoping, SoTired (Mike & Trish), evega, Douglas and Kirsi Nielson, Jessicafl27, kimmy2, auntielala, weezy8550, miserynmissouri, STBXWife, sealfan, Jen Brown, LunaDove, SMIAJ, cinderella, day by day, GreggC, trying_to_accept, solon, serenitydipity, ilia, lonejrock, anchorhugger, Prayer & Patience, Chikar, Alex6, Hopeforamiracle, fishlady, rookie, Made A Mess of Things,

Prayers Answered: Lupolady(air conditioner), Steadfastandcommitted (first string again), cry2much(sucessful surgery), Movingonwithlife(Wife coming home), WGTT(accepted into mentor program), betrayed and desparate (sucessful cancer surgery), Againstthewind (Got job), Free (Marriage Restoration begun ), cajunky (wife not engaged & did something with family, told me she loved me), Stillwaiting (neice is o.k.), Stillwaiting(Got to see her husband for 2 hours and his heart seems to have softened), Steadfastandcommitted (wife gave up other man), janna-m-r (Husband came home and wants to try to restore marriage even though he is the BS), tsc (marriage being restored), Faithfulwife (GOT A JOB, Found a house, D is final and got a puppy that “just LOVES me”), d_rose (got a ways to go but we are going there together.), WGTT (WH coming home), GreggC (wife's heart is softening a bit and son asking about things in the Bible and believes in it),

Thank you everyone that prayed with us and also all of you that gave a praise report. Like many of you all, I like to see the praises to answered prayer. It is a blessing to hear how God is working and helping people get through tough times.

<small>[ July 16, 2003, 01:09 PM: Message edited by: steadfast and committed ]</small>

To All,

I know I am a WW and I have disclosed to my H. The A was over about a year ago and I have been working and praying ever since for God's forgiveness. I only recently disclosed, but am sincere in my remorsefulneess and my desire to restore our M. Don't know if "one of us" can particpate in the prayers for restoration of M, but would ask to...and also will pray for all of you.

Alex,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The A was over about a year ago and I have been working and praying ever since for God's forgiveness.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You only have to ask once for forgivness from God. He hears you and has forgiven you. There is no need to feel like you should ask for forgivness from God any more.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I only recently disclosed, but am sincere in my remorsefulneess and my desire to restore our M.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Your H has a lot of pain process. Since the A has been over for a while; you have been dealing with it far longer than he has. Let him go through this and be there to support him and help him and pray for him daily. Show him that you love him in ways he will understand.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't know if "one of us" can particpate in the prayers for restoration of M, but would ask to...and also will pray for all of you.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"One of us"? Alex, you are a child that God has known since before you were even born. He has had a plan for you since the beginning of time; and that plan is for you to have an intimate relationship with Him. You cannot have a relationship like that w/o prayer and reading His word.

So of course you can join this group. I would be honored to add your name.

Bless you.

S&C

Chapter 8 from Power of a praying Husband.

Hey guys; how often do you tell your wives they are beautiful? I think they want to be told. And if we don't, someone else just might.

HER BEAUTY

Most woman don't think they are as beautiful as they really are. I have never met a woman who would not enjoy being told that she is beautiful, especially by the man in her life. Inherent in a woman is the desire to see beauty, both in herself and in her surroundings. It is a natural instinct God has put there because He wants her to desire HIM, the most beautiful of all. He wants her to look to Him so she can reflect His beauty(Psalm 27:4).

The main thing that makes a woman beautiful is knowing she is loved. Thats why having Gods Spirit living in her and spending time in God's presence in praise and worship is the most effective beauty treatment available.

As great as the love of children is she needs her husband's love more. His love fulfills her as a person. It causes her to feel beautiful. The more a man encourages a woman to feel beautiful, the more beautiful she will become.

How your wife feels about herself is ultimately as important to your happiness as it is to hers. You can contribute either positively or negatively to the image she grows into. Your words have more power to bring out the beauty in your wife than you ever dreamed possible. There are only two who can actually make her believe she is beautiful- God and you.

Your prayers can set her free from lies of the past and enable her to hear God speak the truth in her heart. Your prayers will also help your wife find that balance between arrogance and self-flagellation.

PRAYER

LORD,I pray that you would give (wifes name) the "incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious" in Your sight(1Peter 3:4). Help her to appreciate the beauty You have put in her. Help me to remember to encourage her and speak words that will make her feel beautiful.

Where anyone in her past has convinced her that she is unattractive and less than who You made her to be, I pray that You would replace those lies with Your truth. Keep any hurtful words that have been spoken to her form playing over and over in her mind. I pray that she will not base her worth on appearance, but on Your Word. Help her to see herself from your perspective. Convince her of how valuable she is to You, so that I will be better able to convince her of how valuable she is to me.

Show my wife how to take good care of herself. Give her wisdom about the way she dresses and adorns herself so that it always enhances her beauty to the fullest and glorifies You. But remind her that time spent in Your presence is the best beauty treatment of all. Make my wife beautiful in every way, and may everyone else see the beauty of Your image reflected in her.

Thanks steadfast,

You are right of course, My H needs time to work through all this. I pray every morning and night about this and will continue to pray for God's will in my life and my acceptance it it.

Hello all,

I would like to be added to the prayer list. I've been away from the boards for almost a year now, so the prayer group is very new to me.

I would like to pray for the ability to trust in my ex-husbands wishes for us to be together again.

I would also like to add a prayer for all of us on the boards, to soon find the peace and happiness we all deserve.

Please add me to the list, my prayers are for the W's fog to lift and realize what she is loosing.

Hello,

Thanks again, S&C. My prayers are with all who post here.

I am heartbroken and don't know where to turn now, so I really need prayers this week. I can't see where God is taking this whole thing.

cajeanie

<small>[ July 15, 2003, 11:10 AM: Message edited by: cajeanie ]</small>

fishlady and rookie,

I have added you to the list. Thank you for joining us.

cajeanie,

I understand where you're at. One of the people that prays for me sent this to me. She didn't even know I was struggling at the time (maybe she did). It has come to mean a lot to me and my walk with God. I hope it gives you comfort as well. Just remember God is in control.

The Isolation Chamber
Be still and know that I am God....
Psalm 46:10

There is a time and place in our walk with God in which He sets us in a place of waiting. It is a place in which all past experiences are of no value. It is a time of such stillness that it can disturb the most faithful if we do not understand that He is the one who has brought us to this place for only a season. It is as if God has placed a wall around us. No new opportunities - simply inactivity. During these times, God is calling us aside to fashion something new in us. It is an isolation chamber designed to call us to deeper roots of prayer and faith. It is not a comfortable place, especially for a task driven businessperson. Our nature cries out, "You must do something," while God is saying, "Be still and know that I am God." You know the signs that you have been brought into this chamber when He has removed many things from your life and you can't seem to change anything. Perhaps you are unemployed. Perhaps you are laid up with an illness.

Most religious people live a very planned and orchestrated life where they know almost everything that will happen. But for people in whom God is performing a deeper work, He brings them into a time of quietness that seems almost eerie. They cannot say what God is doing. They just know that He is doing a work that cannot be explained to themselves or to others.

Has God brought you to a place of being still? Be still and know that He really is God. When this happens, the chamber will open soon after.
TGIF - Today God Is First; Os Hillman; 10/25/2002

Bless you all today.

S&C

Please add me to you list.

A little history:

A month ago my wife told me she did not love me any more, and left. We have had problems off and on for 3 years (been maried for 5 1/2 but together for over 16)but I had no Idea it was so bad. She moved back home a week ago but only because she had no other place to go, and is living in our livingroom. She has started smoking again (after 16 years)and has no more interest in reading the Bible or listening to anything "God related". She is still going to Church however (paise the Lord)and I do trull beleave she is saved. She is going to movies with me and out to eat and acts like she enjoies my co., But if I say anything about getting back together it just pushes her back into her hole. I was not the perfect Husband, and I know I had ignored her and minipulated her to do things she did not want to, But I am praying that God change my hart so I will not do that to her anymore. By her words there is NO hope for us, but I know with God all things are posible. our Devorce hearing is 8/8/03 and I am getting a little (LOT!!!) nervous.

My Prayer Request: Please pray that God give her a hart of forgiveness; and that he gives me the hart to be the man I need to be, and that God repair this marriage(heal us).

Thank you and I will pray for all of you as well.

<small>[ July 15, 2003, 06:34 PM: Message edited by: Chikar ]</small>

Chikar,

We got ya covered. Right between Prayer & Patience and Alex6. Thanks for joining us.

Bless you.

S&C

Power of Praying Wife:

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His Self-Image:
Why do some very capable and talented men consistently find door of opportunity and acceptance closed to them, limited opportunities and success in every area of their lives?

Timing, of course, has something to do with it. God has a time for everything and He works in us what needs to be done to prepare us for what is ahead. Having a sense of God's timing brings the peace to wait on the Lord for it.

There can be another reason for the struggle, however, and that is a man's perception of himself. If he has a poor self-image, he iwll have doubt about his value that creep into everything he does -- even into his relationships. People who are uncomfortable with his insecurity may avoid him, and this will in turn affect how he relates to his family, friends, coworkers, and even strangers. Expecting to be rejected, he will.

If your H's self-image needs a make-over, be patient. The answers don't come overnight when a long-held pattern of thinking has to be broken. But you can appropriate the power of God to fight the enemy that feeds him familiar lies, so he can be free to hear God's truth.

I firmly believe that the tendency towards a midlife crisis can be hindered by praying along this same line. Any toxicity still in a man's soul after he reaches his fifties will eventually pour out of him like a poison. It's as if the invisible dam holding it back weakens with age. When it breaks, the flood can be strong enough to carry him away.

God's says our first steps are to be toward Him, seeking His face, following His laws, putting Him first and self-centered pursuits last. When we line up with Him, He leads the way and all we have to do is follow. As we look to Him, the glory of His image gets imprinted upon us. When our self-image gets so wrapped up in God that we lose ourselves in the process, we're free.

Your H will never see who he really is until he sees who God really is. Pray that he finds his true identity.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> PRAYER:
Lord,
I pray that (H's name) will find his identity in You. Hlep him to understand his worth through Your eyes, and by Your standards. May he recognize the unique qualities You've placed in him and be able to appreciate them. Enable him to see himself the way You see him, understanding that "You have made him a little lower than the angels, and You crowned him with glory and honor. You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands. You have put all things under his feet." (Psalm 8:4-6)

Quiet the voices that tell him otherwise and give him ears to hear Your voice telling him that it will not be perfection that gets him through life successfully, it will be Yours.

Reveal to him that "he is the image and glory of God" (I Cor. 11:7), and he is "complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power" (Col. 2:10). Give him the peace and security of knowing that he is accepted, not rejected, by You. May his true self-image be the image of Christ stamped upon his soul.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">SCRIPTURES:
Romans 8:29
II Cor. 3:18
James 1:23-25

Dear Brothers and Sisters in the Lord,
I recieved this post in my daily mail from Rejoice Ministries. They have a service you can subscribe to.....

It was written by Charlyne, it's very good, and I think we could benefit from reading it here today. Following that, is a "musing" from her H, Bob:

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SUBMIT TO ONE ANOTHER

"Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ."
Ephesians 5:21

One area that I failed in my marriage was submission to my husband. I had a Type A personality and ran a large medical office, so I did not switch roles when I came home to be the wife and mother. I continued my role as the one in charge, in control, and unfortunately, barking
out orders for everyone to help me.

The word "submission" in our modern world has become distorted and many women hate the word, but they do not truly understand the biblical reason and the true meaning of submission. I submit to my husband as unto my Lord and out of reverence and obedience to my Lord Jesus Christ.

After Bob and I were divorced, the Lord revealed many weaknesses that I had as a wife. Many standers write seeking how to change. I want
to share a section of scripture that is for every wife and husband. May you and I ask the Lord to make us become the wife or husband you
need to be for your spouse. The only one that can change your inner person is the Holy Spirit. God created man and then the woman was
created. Women are to be the helpmate for the men. If each of us knew our role, we will be able to love, cherish and honor our spouses.

God's way is the perfect way. Women are not to be abused by men, but men are to be the head of the family with God over all. If each of us
will allow the Holy Spirit to put our homes in proper order, God will get the glory and we will have God's peace in each home.

What is submission? Nelson's biblical meaning is: yielding to authority; obedience to another's will."

Mutual submission in Christ is a general spiritual principle. Every Christian family should seek submission, humility, gentleness,
patience and tolerance as characteristics of every family member. The wife submits (yields in love) to the husband's responsibility of
leadership in the family. The husband must submit to the needs of the wife in an attitude of love and self-giving or self-sacrifice as
Christ died for the Church. What love!

The children must submit to the authority of the parents in obedience. Both parents must submit to the needs of their children and bring them
up in the instruction of the Lord. Submission will not be a bad word when everyone fulfils their role in being the wife, husband, or child
that they need to be as unto the Lord.

"Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything." Ephesians 5:22-24

"Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word, and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless. In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself. After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church-for we are members of his body." Ephesians 5:25-30

"For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." This is a profound mystery-but I am talking about Christ and the church. However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband." Ephesians 5:31-33

Some family problems are also due to in-law problems or control by manipulation or possibly financial control. A young couple needs to
leave their families to be able to begin building their home on the solid rock of Jesus Christ. That does not mean you do not see or talk to loved ones. It may take time or adjustments, but ask the Holy Spirit to show you where you need to change and be more like the wife or husband that you need to be to have a healed, reconciled and restored marriage. Parents and children all have responsibilities in
a family.

May I ask you a question: Are you listening to your parents or loved ones more than you are your spouse? Remember to pray for the salvation
of all family members.

I believe husbands and wives can become the mates their spouses need by reading and applying the entire Chapter of Ephesians 5. This scripture give us examples of our behavior, telling us to live as children of light and not live in deeds of darkness. May I share two
scriptures which I believe will give you the ability to submit and love your spouse as Christ loves you.

"Be imitators of God, therefore, as dearly loved children and live a life of love, just as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us as a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God."
Ephesians 5:1-2

"Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is. Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit." Ephesians 5:17-18

If your spouse is not a Christian at the present time, read I Peter 3:1-7 as Peter give instructions how a wife should act in order to
bring her unsaved husband to Christ. Any individual can win their spouse over, more by their behavior than by words. Ask the Lord
where you have failed as a spouse and ask the Holy Spirit to change and make you into a new creature in Christ for your spouse. You will
be surprised what the Lord can do. Submit to your Lord, first!

God bless,
Charlyne Steinkamp
Rejoice Marriage Ministries

</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Bob Steinkamp is travileing by car, on his way to a Covenant Keepers Annual convention in Tulsa, OK.
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HOUSE RULES

Greetings from my hometown, Paducah, Kentucky, one of the stops on the trip to Tulsa. Each time I come here, I know the hotel is close when I passed I-24 exit 11, also known as "Husband Road." You know what special group of people come to mind each time I see that sign.

I also thought about standers this morning at breakfast, when I saw another sign. I was in an I-75 Waffle House in Georgia. The sign, captioned "House Rules," explained that Waffle House food is cooked to order, and because of different preparation times, customers may not be served according to how long they have been waiting.

What a tremendous message for standers. How do you fare when someone else's marriage is restored, and that person has been standing for a shorter period than you? Can you rejoice, confident that your miracle is on the way, or do you grumble and complain?

I watched the cook at work this morning. Which orders seemed to take the longest? The best ones. Order only toast and it will be right up. Steak and eggs, with all the extras, might take a while. Please be careful not to call on God for a restored marriage like toast, when He is planning to give you steak, if you will only wait! -R.E.S.
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Please add me to the list - I need all the prayers I can get - to mend my H's heart, and for forgiveness for me, for my past behavior. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

Please add me to the list of prayers answered. I don't know for sure, but it seems that my wife's heart is softening a bit. She asked me to go to a movie with her yesterday, and we got along well. No talk of our relationship. Afterwards, she gave me a kiss on the neck as she was leaving to go home. (we are separated.) Also, a lady from church talked to us about how much of a mistake she made in divorcing her husband. I think my wife's was somewhat receptive to this. I think that this is a prayer answered. Also, I have been praying that my son have a chance to know Jesus. I think this was answered a couple of days ago when he asked me about Adam and Eve, and when hesaid he believes what is in the bible. This was very surprising to hear, and seems to be an answer to my prayer.

Thanks,

Gregg

Hi All,

I'm already on the prayer list but I want to ask for a specific prayer this week.

Please pray for my decision of moving out of my parents house. Living there always caused many problems in my marriage. My mother has not been much help lately because she feels total hate for my H and doesn't ever want him back. I want to make things work. I believe in my vows and will keep them as long as I can. I'm already old enough to live on my own but my mother doesn't seem to want to let me go. She expects me to be there forever (even when H and I were still together). I need to learn to grow up and show my husband the changes I am doing in my life. I've told him I want to change but I need to SHOW him as well. I haven't talked to my dad about moving yet and I'm a bit nervous. I know I can make it financially but sometimes I just feel scared. Please pray that I am making the right decision here. If I ever want my husband back, there is no way he'll return to my parents home. That IS a reason why I want to move but not the main one. I am wanting to do this for ME! Please keep me in your prayers.

I'll be praying for all of you as well all day today!

Thanks!

Love, H98

Welcome to the prayer group MAMOT. Sorry you're here, but this is the place to be to get uplifted spiritually.

H98, Big move. No doubt you'll do fine. Just tell your parents they did a good job raising you, you love them and it's time you did this. Bless you.

GreggC, Little victories my friend. Little victories. You gotta cherish them. Keep being a safe place for her. and your son.

To everybody else. Bless you all as you pray for one another. and don't forget to pray specific things for yourself, S and family. YOU HAVE AUTHORITY!

Love in Christ.

S&C

S&C and Lupolady,

I am heartbroken and so discouraged. My Wh and OW are visiting his parents and showing off their new baby this weekend, his birthday. He kept this hidden from me for 9 months, since we lived so far apart and now has not even contacted me to tell me anything about it. He has no C from our M, but raised my SC, and now hasn't talked to them in a year.

I spent yesterday praying, but I am so confused now. He has a new family, even though we aren't even D'vd, and and has cut off contact with me it would seem. It just seems that I need to file for D'v, even though I don't want this, but how can I go on with this happening??? Surely God doesn't want me to destroy this new family, by wanting my WH back now.

Please help me. I don't know what to do. It just hurts and it hurts to see him so happy.

cajeanie,

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Surely God doesn't want me to destroy this new family, by wanting my WH back now.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I rather doubt (IMHO) that God sees this as a family. But that isn't the point right now. The point is that you and your H are still married. And something needs to be done with that fact.

I do think you need to ask yourself some tough questions. The answers you may not like but keep in mind that these are answers from your H's POV, not from us and certainly not from God.

Your H may fail to see the beauty you possess and the special God given qualities you have but that is just his opinion and not the truth. And try your best to keep in mind that God does only want the best for His kids. I always ask people going through struggles; "What do you think God is trying to get us to understand through all of this?" "What do you think he is telling you to do?" If the answer is, "I really don't know." Then I would venture to say that he just wants you to spend more time with Him. Praying, reading and worshipping.

I don't have much else to help you with. The only thing I have to tell you is; I have come to a point that I believe I have made the right choices and changes in my life that if my W can't see it now she may never see it. I believe I am a much better person than I was 2 years ago and I want to make a woman happy in marriage. If she has decided that she doesn't want to be with me then God will give me a woman to be with that will properly portray His design for M. And it would be something I could never have imagined.

Hope you are felling better today. May God bless you and comfort you today.

Love in Christ.

S&C