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I pray that my marriage will be restored. My concern is that God will not do it for us. I'm worried that it is time for my husband to move on. It is him who seems to want a divorce.What if God wants to take him away from me? What if my husband is following his heart and he is meant to leave? I know that God hates divorce but what if in my case his will is for my husband to get his wish? I know that God allows us to exercise our free will, and I'm worried that my husband is having a midlife crisis and is not in his normal frame of mind. I am not allowing the divorce. I am contesting it and am led to believe that I can do this for up to 5 years. I am going to stand for my marriage, but i dont want to beg God for restoration if he has no plan whatsoever for that to happen. Please hel me thisso

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by thisso:
<strong>I'm worried that it is time for my husband to move on. What if God wants to take him away from me? What if my husband is following his heart and he is meant to leave? I know that God hates divorce but what if in my case his will is for my husband to get his wish? I dont want to beg God for restoration if he has no plan whatsoever for that to happen. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hello, thisso,

I'm sorry you have to be here, but believe me, this is a great place to be under these types of circumstances.

To answer some of your many, deeply, heart-felt questions:

First of all, GOD HATES DIVORCE! That should be enough..........

But if it isn't, then think about these few points:
* Once a person enters into a covenant/makes a vow with God (and a marriage covenant is such vow), then God expects you to HONOR IT ALL YOUR LIFE. There is NO such thing as "I don't want to be in this covenant anymore!" A covenant is not a contract, to be broken at will......So, to desire to break a vow entered into with God is to sin against God, and breaking a covenant you willingly entered into with Him is NO small thing.

* God does NOT "take away" our spouses in this way. I believe once we enter into such a covenant (and btw - you BOTH entered this covenant, and are both bound by it), then God expects you will hold up your end of it 'till death. The ONLY way a covenant is broken is through death.........so a married couple is marriage TILL DEATH ends the covenant.

* Your comment: H is "meant to leave" and is following his heart (See answer above).

As far as "begging God for restoration" of your M, I would advise you to spend some time WITH God first. Get to know where you are in the whole scheme of things. I found out I was far from God myself, so it was a humbling thing for me to face Him. I had to throw myself on His Mercy, and ask for Forgiveness for my sins in our M before I could even begin to find out what He was doing with my H and my M! Once I got right with God, I then began to examine what God's plan was for my M.

Well, that's my 2¢, so pray about it, and see what God wants you to do!!

God Bless,

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Thisso,

I too have been having the same feelings you are having. My marriage has never been perfect. My marriage was far from normal. And now my H is in a deep fog with his A. I too feel that maybe it is God's will for me to find someone else who will meet my EN's like my husband never did. But I agree with everything Lupolady said. And I am trying to do exactly what she said...get right with God. It is hard, and humbling, and I pray daily for change in me. I pray daily for faithfulness to Him, and I pray daily for patience.

This was just the post I needed to read. Today I was feeling particularly down, because I went to Plan B as of yesterday and feeling like my M is over. I was begging and pleading with God again to restore my marriage. To "bring my H back to me" and to give me another chance to make our marriage work. But, I now know that what I need to do is pray for my own change. I need to get right with God. I am currently reading a book called "Right With God" by John Blanchard. It is meant for non-Christians, but I am finding that it is also for Christians who need to renew themselves with God. Which is what I need to do first, before I can begin to pray for change within my husband.

Thank you for sharing your feelings. And keep coming back here. This site has been a tremendous source of comfort for me. Everyone here has been through what you are feeling, and everyone here has the same goal...to restore their marriages. Something people on the outside don't always understand.

God bless.

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Thisso,

Maybe you would also benefit from the Power of a Praying Wife study that Jeanateare is starting up. She has a post here where you can get more info on it. I believe she is wanting to start it this Tuesday evening. Hope you can make it, and if you don't have the book...get it! It is truly awesome.

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Hi Thisso,

Your thoughts sound much like mine 10 mos. or so ago when my husband divorces me against my wishes. Against all hope, I began to believe in reconciliation. Well, not just believe, but having never been divorced before, I was like most people who saw divorce as pretty final... where someone would say, "We're divorcing" and I'd say, "Oh, I'm sorry." NOW... I say, "NO! Don't do it! Let me help! Blah, blah!" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Well, I know everyone's situation is different, some with abuse and adultery, and in ways, I tremble when I encourage reconciliation in those situations, but I know I must because I know it is the heart of God. I don't think anyone encouraged my husband to reconcile but rather just said, "Oh, I'm sorry." I truly, truly believe had anyone encouraged reconciliation... I think he would have been more convicted about it because he is a Christian man, and a good man too, but anyways...

I don't believe it's God's will that your husband divorce you. No way! In Deut., Moses told the men if they divorced their wives, they must give them a cert. of divorce (it was for their protection) and he said, "It was not this way from the beginning" and told them it was because of the "hardness" of their hearts that he had to give them instruction on divorce. They were divorcing because they were NOT obeying God by keeping their marriage vows and they had hardened their hearts.

Obviously, even in the case of unrepentive adultery or severe abuse, well, that person doing that has a hardened heart. IF he or she were in God's will, he or she would repent and stop the sin of adultery and/or abuse, and would obey the Lord when he says, "Husbands love your wives" and "Wives respect your husbands." THAT is God's will!

Obviously, yes, God does let us make choices.. to an extent... I think sometimes we give "free will" to much credit because God can change a persons' heart and does (many Biblical examples). But He does let us make choices, even when wrong; thus, there is adultery, abuse, and divorce.

I pray too that your marriage will be restored! While I certainly can't speak for God and tell you that yes, or no, it will be, I agree with you in prayer for it to be and for your husband's heart to turn. I pray that the Lord gives your husband a "heart of flesh". There is a verse that says he turns a heart of stone to a heart of flesh. Can't think of the refernece right now, but that's what I pray for your and my husband... all our husbands (and wives).

There is a spiritual battle and Satan will do all he can to deceive your husband and to destroy his life and your marriage. The Bible says, "What God has joined together, let NO man tear asunder." It does not say... "well, unless it was a mistake to begin with" or "unless you are really unhappy." NO. It says "let NO man tear asunder" period.

Often we divorce before letting God do a miracle in our lives and our marriages. Satan says to us, like he did to Eve... "Oh, surely God didn't mean that." He deceives us into thinking divorce might actually be a good thing. Even in the case of adultery and abuse, it's not a good thing. It's an extremely painful thing and when there are children, well, the effects are far-reaching in their lives and go into adulthood. God never intended for it. I realize that sometimes, in the case of unrepentive adultery, severe abuse, etc... it may be the only thing left, but it still does not diminish the pain... the loss of dreams and hopes, etc... and the hardships of being a single mom or single dad or just single period... and then the regret afterwards. Yes, God can definitely heal and He does forgive also, but ...

Well, I believe it's not His will that your husband divorce you. I agree though that you need to "let go" and not force him to stay in the marriage. You can lovingly let him know that you do not want the divorce but that you cannot force him to love you. Of course, you will be bawling on the inside, but it is probably all you can do. If he insists, I think that he might feel you are manipulating him or causing him to feel guilty if you tell him he shouldn't divorce, etc.

You must put your faith in God during this time. You are going to be literally beseiged with fears, sorrows, doubts, and possibly/probably anger as well.

I do think though that God can use the divorce to change your husband's heart and to change your marriage. Sometimes, something has to die to be restored and "reborn".

There is nowhere in the Bible where God takes away a spouse through divorce. All divorce in the Bible is done by a person's decision.. either with a hardened heart or because it was an unbeliever leaving or because of adultery. The only way God ends a marriage is through death. I mean, that is the only way He "takes" a spouse. I see no reason why God would want your husband to "get his wish" of divorcing you. NO. I don't believe that for a minute!

I am "standing" for my marriage also and believe I could make it single for the rest of my life.

I am not sure that you should contest it. I don't know the laws of your state, etc... I mean, I think you can "contest" it as far as telling him you don't want it and won't sign papers. In many states, with "no fault" divorce, it doesn't require both signatures. Sad, but true. Very sad actually. But, you don't want to further harden his heart. In the Bible when the unbeliever wants to leave, God says to let him go peacefully. I think the opposite would be to cause a struggle which would only leave the unbelieving spouse angry, bitter, hardened, etc.

Even though your spouse isn't an unbeliever (I assume), I believe the same Biblical principal applies. You can think of the prodigal son. He left and the father not only let him leave, but gave him the inheritance. The son came back... AFTER He'd reached bottom and realized how good he'd had it. I believe he was probably forever changed and never left again in the rebellious manner he had at first.

I don't know what will happen with your marriage, obviously, but I do agree with you in prayer for restoration. "Where two or three are gathered in my name..." God is with them and hears their prayers!

I would encourage you to seek the Lord through not only fervent prayer, but also with fasting. Ask Him to show you what course of action to take, and as you ask, BE IN THE WORD. God will speak to you as you are in the Word and He will show you what to do.

I will recommend two sites to you that were absolute God sends to me (truly... I know God led me to them! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> ). One is Restore Ministries www.restorem.org and the other is Rejoice Ministries www.rejoiceministries.org. I encourage you to read the testimonies at both sites and sign up for the free email devotional (called "Charlyne Cares") at the seond site. If you can afford it, buy the book "HOw God Can and Will Restore Your Marriage" at the first site and put yourself on the prayer list. Also, tapes at both sites are very good... "Be Encouraged" tapes at Restore Ministries are good and at the Rejoice Ministries, any tapes. They are both such sweet, sweet, godly people!

You need to surround yourself with godly people and truth... which you will find in God's Word.

I will put you on my prayer list as a fellow "stander." <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> I have been where you are now and still have days of thinking I must be absolutely crazy for "standing" and days when I think, "No way, it's impossible!". But it's not. It is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life, the most sorrowful, and the most "alone" thing--- by that I mean, very few people understand and it is the first time, I have sought the Lord above man... which is a good thing, but I am learning to truly love and I am learning to have faith like never before. Even if my marriage is not restored, I am very thankful for the pain in which God has used in my life to change me and teach me, and still is.

That probably is not much comfort to you right now where you are at, and I think I have talked too much! Sorry!

May God be with you and give you comfort, peace, rest and strength to face the days ahead. May He give you wisdom and discernment to know what to do.

Oh... one last thing, when my husband and I went to the judge, I signed the papers thinking I had no other choice. My husband later told me, if I hadn't signed them , he would have seen that as me truly loving him and he would have stopped the divorce. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> Many times, I acted in fear rather and did what I thought I had to rather than fighting for my marriage. But you have to fight with spiritual weapons and not earthly ones... fight with prayer, faith, the Word in you, love.

Your situation is different from mine, so I can't completely adivse you from what I did and didn't do... but I did think of that example when you mentioned contesting the divorce. I would say that if it costs any money to contest, don't do it... and if it makes your husband bitter or angry, don't do it. Even if the divorce goes through, God can still restore and work miracles. "Walk by faith, not by sight."

May God give you wisdom.

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Oh, I think the advice given by the other women was very good too and Biblical.

God bless and be with you.

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I am going to stand for my marriage, but i dont want to beg God for restoration if he has no plan whatsoever for that to happen

Until you know for sure that God has no plan for your marriage to be restored, you owe it to yourself and to Him to either continue to fight for it, or to find out His plan. Doing anything else is another way of saying you really are not interested in saving your marriage, IMHO.

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thankyou all so much for taking the time to reply. All your comments have been logged and very appreciated. I have wondered too, about whether contesting my divorce will make my husband angry. To be honest, I think that while I believe he is in mlc, he doesn't believe he is,anything makes him angry!!

But the instruction I feel inside is to stand, hold it up as long as I can and wait. He hasn't contacted me or our children for 14 days now. Since we found out where he was living. He has had us in despair for 12 of those weeks wondering where he could possibly be. So we followed him and found him in a flat with a woman co-worker and her 2 year old son !!!!

i have sent a 9page letter to his solicitor telling of my situation and my love for him and that I do not feel that it is wise so early in our trauma, to file for divorce. My husband appears confused and not quite in his right mind.

I hope he's not in his right mind anyway, because he is acting opposite to what I know him to be.

My shoulders are broad enough to bear the burden of my husbands adultery. God has forgiven me all of my sins, so I think he has given me a heart to do the same for my husband. I need to get closer to God and this is my primary objective at the moment. I am faultering daily, and I cry with fear a lot. But I know I can't live with both fear and faith, so fear has got to go.

Thankyou again for replying thisso

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" Lord, we ask you to send angels and laborers to this woman , her husband and th eother woman, Let her husband see in the fullest sense all of the despair and pain his actions are causing. What ever it takes Lord open his eyes his heart and his mind. Lift the selfish self centered feelings he is operating on and pull him to your heart Lord, because in your heart will lead to the light. God we ask you bless this family during the long road ahead, the pain, the tears and any other obstacles they might come upon, help them to clear them from their mind and their sight, send someone close to this family to stand in the gap until all parties can find the path that leads straight to your feet..Lord, we ask you step in and remove all this from their lives. Bless them lord, amen"
thats all my advice iz hve to offer hope it helps...god be with you and in your heart, remember to let the words tha tcome from your mouth be those the lord would speak himself.

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Thisso, you said, "God has forgiven me all of my sins, so I think he has given me a heart to do the same for my husband. I need to get closer to God and this is my primary objective at the moment. I am faultering daily, and I cry with fear a lot. But I know I can't live with both fear and faith, so fear has got to go."

This is so beautiful and the Lord has obviously been working in your heart for you to be able to say this. I was blessed to have a faithful husband and there was no adultery and so I cannot relate to the pain, but I do know the bitterness, the blaming, etc... and I too have forgiven and seek forgiveness knowing that we all, like sheep, have been led astray and are in desperate need of a Savior.

Your primary objective of being close to the Lord is the best objective you can have. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> He will be near you, giving you strength, comfort, wisdom, and peace as you draw close to him through prayer, Bible study, and also fasting. Have you fasted before?

I hear much of my own self in that above quote and struggle with fear too and you are right, fear and faith don't coinncide and it is a daily battle and we fight with spiritual weapons (faith, salvation, righteousness, the Word, prayer... Ephesians) against the enemy of our souls who seeks to destroy us and our marriages.

May God be with you. I hope you will go to those sites I mentioned. I believe they will not only minister to you, but also I believe the Lord will use them to encourage you and to give you wisdom because the couples are very God-fearing people who have been down the path of divorce and adultery and then remarriage.

God bless.


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