Proverbs Chapter 5

Thoughts?
Comments?

I posted this on the G ?'s II also- but havent had too much response....

Thanks-
OTH

There's some very interesting stuff here, but I have to admit, I only have a minute. It seems that this entire chapter is basically and exhortation to avoid adulterous relationships and the disasterous consequences of them:

1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:

NOTE: Here the Hebrew word translated "my son" is actually the word that means young men and boys, not the affection term for a child. However, I think it's worth noting that the writer recognizes that youth (and immature) are the most likely to be tempted.

Also note that the writer asks that we listen to his understanding. This may be my interpretation, but I think that means, "Hey, learn from my experiences here!!"

2 That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.

3 For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:

NOTE: Yep, I'd say the writer at least knew of an OW! The OW will say or do anything to sound sweet--even encourage you to sin! A woman who really loves and cares for you will tell you things you may not want to hear.

4 But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a two-edged sword.

NOTE: The Hebrew word for Wormwood is the word for an herb that started off sweetish and ended up so bitter that it burned like jalapeno or horseradish. Excellent analogy, wouldn't you say??

5 Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.

6 Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.

NOTE: I love this one!! In more modern terms, this verse says, "Just in case you ever have time to stop and think about what in the world you are doing with an OW, she keeps trying new and exotic things just to keep you from figuring her out and realizing what you are doing is wrong." It's almost Shakespearean!

7 Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.

NOTE: AH!! This Hebrew word is the affectionate name you call your dearly beloved children. This word means "I love you, young ones."

8 Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:

NOTE: Avoid even the appearance of evil. Not only should you not go IN her house, don't even stand in her door!! Don't even go NEAR her door.

9 Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:

NOTE: Wow, any BS would know what this means. As a married couple you work for years and decades thinking your are building a future together, and then the WS gives it to someone who is cruel and sinful.

10 Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;

11 And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,

NOTE: These Hebrew words interpreted as "flesh" and "body" really mean "remnant" and I think what the writer is visualizing is being eatten from the inside out, so that all that is left is this remnant of flesh that has no soul--no inside. I'm saddened to say that I do believe that our WS's who chose their OP ahead of their spouses do eventually mourn and lose.

12 And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;

13 And have not obeyed the voice of my teachers, nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!

14 I was almost in all evil in the midst of the congregation and assembly.

15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

NOTE: "If you are thirsting for love, lust, or pleasures, go home!!" An important lesson is sort of lost here though for the wife, and that is, as wives we need to offer freely running waters of love, lust, and pleasure to our husbands. What I mean is that we need to make "home" a place that he can go.

16 Lest thy fountains be dispersed abroad, and rivers of waters in the streets.

NOTE: Haha, this is too funny. The Hebrew word here for "fountain" is actually...umm..."canal". Too vivid isn't it?? Well, I guess the writer at the time was being quite bold, huh?? Go home for your love and lust, lest your canal spray all over the place and run in the streets! heehee. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

17 Let them be only thine own, and not strangers' with thee.

NOTE: Along the lines of the canal, if your canal flows at home and you have a house FULL of children, it is a blessing--but illegitimate children all over the streets do not bless a man.

18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth.

19 Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love.

NOTE: I think these two verses are just beautiful and they make me a little vaklempt

20 And why wilt thou, my son, be ravished with a strange woman, and embrace the bosom of a stranger?

21 For the ways of man are before the eyes of the LORD, and he pondereth all his goings.

22 His own iniquities shall take the wicked himself, and he shall be holden with the cords of his sins.

23 He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.


CJ

<small>[ January 03, 2004, 08:04 PM: Message edited by: FaithfulWife ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">1 My son, attend unto my wisdom, and bow thine ear to my understanding:

NOTE: Here the Hebrew word translated "my son" is actually the word that means young men and boys, not the affection term for a child. However, I think it's worth noting that the writer recognizes that youth (and immature) are the most likely to be tempted.

Also note that the writer asks that we listen to his understanding. This may be my interpretation, but I think that means, "Hey, learn from my experiences here!!" </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Is this your opinion on the meaning, or is this from the Bible notes themselves?

IMHO, I don't think it is for youth only, even men in their 70's-80's cheat (women also).

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">15 Drink waters out of thine own cistern, and running waters out of thine own well.

NOTE: "If you are thirsting for love, lust, or pleasures, go home!!" An important lesson is sort of lost here though for the wife, and that is, as wives we need to offer freely running waters of love, lust, and pleasure to our husbands. What I mean is that we need to make "home" a place that he can go.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How many BS are willing to say that they did NOT make home a place their WH could go to? Mine didn't. If she didn't want to do something that I did; i.e., sexually, affectionatley, intimately, spiritually, parentally, financially, WHATEVER; that was it she didn't feel she was required to give an explanation.
Let me repeat myself.
I AM 100% RESPONSIBLE FOR SLEEPING WITH THE OW.
I AM 50% RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STATE OF OUR M THAT OPENED THE DOOR FOR ME TO CHOOSE TO HAVE AN A.

Tell me ladies. Did you ever deny kissing your H because their teeth were crooked (you knew it before you married me)? Did you ever just say to your H, "No, because I said so?"

See right now there are so many reasons this M SHOULD BE OVER. I had a horrible day and I am struggling to keep myself form screaming at the top of my lungs (read my otehr post to find out why). But everything that happens to us, we have a part in it. Maybe not 100%, but stop thinking your blameless.

bye,
trying ...... to hold onto my M and my life