I was wondering if we are all in agreement that after we finish the rest of the chapters in POPW that we will start over with POPW using the POPW Study Guide. I'd really like to do this, as I still feel weak in my prayer life. This book has been of such benefit to us, I'd also like to keep things going for newcomers to MarriageBuilders.<P>Also, if and when we start with the Study Guide, should we post an invitation on the other forums? <P>Since we've had a few new people this week, I thought I'd mention our prayer night agenda. (This is voluntary, only if you feel like it) We pray in unison for our husbands, using the weekly update as our prayer guide (link below), each Tuesday evening beginning at 11:00 PM EST. Prayer time lasts usually 30 min. to an hour. After praying, we post here what we felt, etc.<P>Link to the weekly update: <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum25/HTML/000303.html" TARGET=_blank>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum25/HTML/000303.html</A> <P>On Mondays, we try to give each other an update on our situation.<P>On Wednesdays, some of us fast and pray for the group. <P>Thank you all Ladies. Looking forward to prayer with you all tonight. <P>Thank You Lord, for leading each of us to this wonderful forum. I pray that You will use it and each of us for Your will, and to Your good. I pray that Your presence will be with us tonight, guiding us as we pray for our husbands, and for each other. Thank you Father, we praise Your holy name, the name above all names. In Jesus Name I pray, AMEN

Rootbeer,<P>I am all for the study guide once we are done with the book. It will be great to start again with everyone answering the questions. They really are insightful and help you to zero in better on deeper issues.<P>I am also excited for the new people we have joining us. It brings a new urgency which we should always have in our prayer time.<P>This study is powerful to say the least and I know it has changed the way I look at my husband forever. <P>Can't join you tonight as usual but I am thankful for the faithfulness of those who pray every Tuesday night. Be assured that I do pray for all of you. My time on the puter is vital to my day anymore. You are all part of my family in Christ.<P>Blessings, Taj

I am in too ladies!

AW,<BR>Super idea, I hope it will be after the 5th of May. If not I will catch up. Classes and all will be done by then. I can't talk much now, but I will be posting the prayer in a bit and be praying. I have to Praise the Lord,. I left my billfold/ no money on the xerox machine at school. I thought i had lost it all, id's credit cards etc drive's licence./ Well I decided I would trust God. I did not panic on the way home. I decided if no one had called by the time I got home I would report the cards and cancel them. I walked in and my babysitter said someone called and they have your wallet. Here's the number. Yeah, Praise the Lord. On the way home I decided to give it to God and in the scheme of eternity it was not a disaster just inconvienent. The Lord is great even in the small things.. See yeah soon!!!

AW, <BR>I won't make it for 11:00 prayer this evening, I have to get to bed, but first I will go to updates and pray for us right now before bed.<P>May God bless your prayer time this evening.<BR>Love,<BR>Jn

hi, I am new, and am glad you will be starting the book again. my h and I are in counsling, really struggling to stay together. I have been reading the book a chapter every evening and praying the prayers. I have been in the background reading this forum for about a week. I want to be a part of your caring group. I feel so alienated as my h has asked me not to share much with our pastor or friends about our <BR>troubles. I would appreciate prayers, I am having a hard time functioning, I want to cry all the time and feel like I am in some kind of charade, that is supposed to be my life. thanks

Carol14, Welcome, welcome, welcome! <BR>Bless you, we know how you feel. Thank you for joining us. There are some wonderful, spirit-filled Christian ladies here, and the encouragement and support has been wonderful, to say the least. I, too, had been asked by my H not to be talking about our problems with others, so this has been the perfect outlet for me as well.<P>Read everything you can find time for Carol, on this forum. It will give you some encouragement I think. There's a post called "Why we Pray in Jesus' name" that is some of our testimonies that you might want to read, as well as the posts on the other chapters.<P>Dear Heavenly Father, I lift up Carol14 to you, asking Lord, that you send the Holy Spirit to her, comforting her and filling her with Your peace. Thank you Lord, for Carol14, and for the work you are doing in her marriage, and her life. I praise You Lord, for You are the king of all kings, and so worthy of ALL our praise! Lord I pray that You will continue to speak to Carol's husband's heart, softening his heart towards You, Your will, and Carol. Thank You Father for loving us so completely. Thank You Lord, for always being here for us to call on in times of need. IJN I pray, AMEN.<BR>

Where do I get the study guide? I tried to find it at the christian book store i went to yesterday but i couldn't. No credit card to order and get by May 5th either?! It will be neat to start the book with others. I am readying and praying now but i am only onl ch. 3. Sooo,<P>Let me know.<BR>Mercy

Our bible book had it, so i would imagine you coulld order it form your book store but (I am not sre how long it would take to get here. Otherwise Amazon.com probably could get it here, but I wasn't quite sure what you were saying about the credit card. Mercy, email me at eramhoff@home.com<P>And Carol, welcome! I am loving these new bodies! This is going to be so exciting!

It took 11 days to get my books from Amazon.com. But they are here now!! Looking forward to reading and praying. What chapter are "we" on? Glad we are starting again on Study Guide. When?<P>------------------<BR>A true friend is one who not only is willing to love us the way we are, but is able to leave us better than he found us.

Thank you for your warm welcome. Is the book I need to look for a workbook for The power of a praying wife? <BR>

Mercy, Our Christian bookstore didn't carry it either. They said they could order it for me. Instead I ordered it from Amazon and it was here in two days! I am now anxious to get started on it. <P>Carol, I understand how you feel. My H didn't want anyone to know either. I did tell my sister and a friend because I desperately needed someone to talk to before I found this forum. The forum is great because everyone here understands..sometimes others don't. Now that everything is going so well for us, I regret telling my friend in some ways because they aren't as forgiving(towards my H) as I am and fear they look at my H differently now. My H didn't want to go to the pastor either. I don't think he could face him each Sunday because he was feeling so guilty. I was fortunate one of my best confidants is an older friend of mine whose H is a minister in another city. She gave me wonderful direction and I never even told her all the ugly details. I truly feel God sent this angel to me and led me to this group. Welcome! Joni

Carol, here is the Amazon.com link.<BR> <A HREF="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0736903178/103-7471619-0250215" TARGET=_blank>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0736903178/103-7471619-0250215</A>

I've got a silly question:<P>My H and I are going thru the divorce process. I do still pray for him and his lifestyle to change. Would the study guide help me? I don't feel it would be a waste of time, but would it really do me any good when he is the one who wants the divorce and I think this is necessary for me to step out of the way and let God do his work? Does this question even make sense? <P>Prayers,<BR>Mitzi

Up to the top for tonight's prayer time.<P>

hi ladies,<BR> I won't be able to join tonight, please include me in your prayers. We are still going to weekly counciling. It is so hard. <BR>The councler said I need to back off give him space, and stop asking for answers my h doesn't know yet. I am so afraid he will leave, and the pressure I put on him makes him want to run. I can't stop crying, thats not going to help either. It hurts so much to hear someone say they are not in love with you anymore. I feel like such a failure. I feel like I am going crazy, I want to disapear. Please pray

Carol, I know where you are I have and I guess I am still there. My h did move out. It was devastating, but we are talking more and he has a new perspective on me. He is still seeing the ow but she lives a 1000 miles away and does not come out more than once a month and they are not planning to move in together anymore. In fact in retrospect I can see some real good coming out of the separation. That is hard for me to believe, but God has brought me so far. The way God showed me to look at it is, if I was always at my husband what room did I leave for God to talk to him? So now when I want things to happen fast or I don't hear from him for a day or two I have to realize that God needs time to speak to him. I do not know yet what the outcome will be but I do believe that God is working. The other thing God has revealed to me and many others here is He wants us to seek Him at this time. He wants to be first in our life. He wants us to know Him. I have realized how much I want intimacy (not the sexual stuff, but the really knowing kind). Well this scares me. I realize that God has been calling me to know Him to learn how to be intimate with Him first. Then my relationship with my husband will be able to be more intimate.<BR>It is hard where you are. But seek God and let Him help you back off and let Him fill the void in you left by backing off. You have to let go and let God. It is scary at first but such a relief and and letting God fill you is much more satisfying. Join us if you can but know that we are praying for you and your h tonight.

Carol,<P>I can relate.<BR> My husband told me he does not love me in "that" way anymore. <BR>I am glad that your husband is in counseling with you. Mine won't go, and he left me three weeks ago.<P>You are in my prayers,<BR>Joynicole

Because so many of you are sharing yourselves with us, I too would like to tell you a little about myself. I'm not as articulate as many of you are. Nor am I as experienced in prayer. But I feel every bit as abandoned, disillusioned and hurt as you all do. I can relate to so many of you even though the reasons of our pain may differ.<P>I'm 37 and married however my H and I have been separated since February 11. Neither one of us were ever married before. We have only been married a little over two years and we have no children. Unlike many of your stories, he was (as far as I know) never unfaithful. He's not a drinker nor did he ever abuse me. He was a loving a giving man who just walked out. I still don't know why and I can only pray that one day he will honour me with his trust by telling me what he is feeling. Although our marriage was strained for many reasons, I believed, and still do, that it wasn't that bad of a marriage. I love him deeply and will never forget I'm married. But he has chosen to focus on others things right now. All of which do not include me. <P>I only hope to learn by your examples of courage and strength. God has certainly blessed you all for what you have share with so many of us.<P>THIS IS WHAT I PRAY FOR MY H:<P>Please God help my H. He is so very lost right now. I know he is searching for you but I believe he doesn't know how to find you. I do pray that he finds you soon and with you as His Saviour, you will help bring him home to me safe. I pray that you will work a miracle with him and help him to realise what a special gift you gave us both by bringing us together. I pray that he seeks help not just in you but with a counsellor that will help him identify why he needed to leave. I pray that the burdens he carries will be lessened by your presence. Today is the day you gave him birth but I pray he will soon be reborn. I pray that he will be silent enough to hear you speaking to his heart. That he will hear your message of hope, goodness and love. But most of all, I pray you remind him that he is married and of his commitment he made to you and our marriage.<P>THIS IS WHAT I PRAY FOR ME:<P>God, thank you for the many answered prayers you have granted me. I need you so much. Now and forever. Please remind me daily that I am not alone. YOU will never forsake me nor abandon me. You will love me unconditionally and forgive me of my human imperfections. Because of my husband leaving, I have returned home to you. And this is one of the many treasures that I have learnt since he walked out. You are with me now and you will be with me in the future. I pray that I don't loose hope in the return of my husband. Please help me find work so that I can begin to feel better about myself. I can no longer do this on my own. I need your help in every way. As you already know, today was a particularly difficult day for me. I wanted to be with him so much as it's the day you gave him life. I miss him so much. The pain is so profound that I feel I'm in this tunnel of darkness and I'm unable to feel my way though to the other side. I want to lay by your feet and rest my heavy head and heart on your lap. Stroking my hair and telling me "It's going to be OK. I will bring you through this." Please God, bring him back home to me soon. But if he doesn't come home, I pray that you will carry me when I can no longer walk alone. I pray that you continue to show me the treasures of each day. I pray that you give me the strength to get through one more hour. Please, I pray that you give my strength to restore myself so that together we can restore my marriage.<P>IJN Amen<BR>

I'm praying in agreement with you right now BabyDoll