Well I just got back from W house. ( she needed cigs again)I took a present from my dad to my son also. <P>Before I left we had a good talk on the porch. OM called to while I was there. She told him not tonight, maybe tomorrow. She said he just got back in town and had something for her. He was going to see his kids and wanted to bring it by. At least she said no.<P>Anyway It was a good talk I think. we talked alittle about us. She did not say there was no way for the first time. Hell I cant even remember all that was said anymore.<P>She is goint to a church Thing teus. About giving all your sins to GOD. If you have been following you know she has ONE BIG SIN she needs to deal with.<P>She also said the reason for our marriage dieing was her fault. She said she always thought the worse, so she made it happen, so it would be her that made it bad not me. <P>She never said we would work on it but it was a start. She even hugged me before I left. This is a first. <P>I dont know if this is a good thing that happened ,but I hope it was. <P>I feel so good tonight, I hope things are turning around.<P>She did tell me about the OM. she said he has come to her house. only when the kids were not there.( I don't know qll this to be true though) She also said there has not been sex, she said she kissed him once. She said he has just really been a friend to her.<P>I do not like this part though.<P>She also told me that she did talk to her dad about us. She said he told her that if she does not want to work on us right now not to do anything that would ruin any chance in the future.<P>I just wanted to share allof this, I hope it all makes sense<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

brownphd -- This really does sound like good news <P>Don't read too much into it yet, but it looks like you are starting to make some progress.<P>. . . Wonderful News

ES I'm tying not to, This is hard to, ther was alot more said. Like that she wanted me to be there when the kids woke up for christmas. She said maybe I could stay ( on the couch of course)at her house cheistmas eve. I said somthing about going to church with them and she said we are there at 12:45 everysunday.<P>It is just far more discussion than we had before. <P>ONE DAY AT A TIME<P>to day is good we will se what tomorrow brings<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

brownphd -- There is almost always a lot more said than what ends up being posted here. If you want to talk about it in more detail, feel free to E-Mail me.<P>Even without all the "details" it still sounds very good. Hang in there my friend.<P>God Bless

ES its nothing really personal, just alot. I'm trying to remamber every thing. Thans though<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

brownphd -- I didn't really think it was personal <P>My offer still stands though.<P>God Bless

Hey brownphd!!<P> Sounds good to me!! I like the thing about giving her sins to God. I WONDER what she's offer?? <BR> It may be a reason to come back. Not your fault, gives her guilt to God, Christmas. Nice stuff she's cooking up. GOOD LUCK AND PRAYERS FRANK<P>------------------<BR>desperate<BR>"If yesterday didn't stop today, Why should TODAY stop tomorrow??" <BR>"Wisdom is why!!"<P>

brownphd-love to say this-told you so!!!! It feels great to think that your on the right track, just keep plugging away! I know sometimes it will seem as though your not getting that far and others will be milestones~have patience and know that God isn't through with you yet! God Bless!<P>------------------<BR>Chick's <BR>Bren<P>You won't see things until your ready to not be blind!<P><BR>

Thanks for all the replys. I hope things continue to improve. <P>The last time things were getting better BAM down they went again, so we will see how this goes. I have told and told myself no pushing.<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

Hi Brownphd -<P>Glad to hear things are pretty good right now!! <P>I'm very proud of you for not calling her today also....that is good!!!<P>Just keep in mind that you are on a roller coaster....up and down - I don't want you crashing if she hits you with another down!!! Keep in mind her confusion and that you have to be the steady one - OK?<P>So what are you going to play with the kids tomorrow nite?<P>HUGS,<P>Sheba

brownphd,<P>PROUD of you for not calling her today - STICK TO IT!!!! <P>Roll Me Away<P>------------------<BR>"Life is made up, not of great sacrifices or duties, but of little things in which smiles and kindnesses and small obligations, given habitually, are what win and preserve the heart and secure comfort."<P>Sir Humphry Davy<BR>