Well, he's done it to me once again. H came over, God only knows why. He starts asking about what I've been doing, where we are going to church, etc,etc. I thought we were having a nice convestation, then WHAM. Says we have to sell the house, I don't get any say because I am disillioned. He owns 50%, remember. And he wants more stuff from the house. He starts in again, blaming me for where he is living, how the marriage fell apart because he had to walk on eggshells the whole time, blah, blah, blah. I had to leave the room because the tears started coming. He took our daughter to the park, what a great dad. I don't believe this man will ever come to his senses, he has NONE! I said one day you will look back at me and realize what a huge mistake you've made. He says, "Why would I with you, I never did with my other wives." MORAN. Sorry,but he ticks me off. I can't help myself, I love bust all the time with him. I'm never going to get him back. Ugh!

ceecee -- Speaking as a man, your H is one dumb mother f*****. Sorry for the profanity. Sometimes men can be so insensitive. I'm truly sorry for you. <P>God Bless

What a A$$*#^e! I can't believe he did this to you. I can't believe he said that to you! To hell with him and his other wives. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just plain sick and tired of all of this selfish behavior from these cheating spouses! Get a lawyer now and find out what your rights are. It's crazy that we can still love them after how they treat us isn't it? Just say to yourself,good, I'm glad he is gone now its my turn to live my life how I want. As far as the house goes don't do anything until you at least talk to a lawyer ok?<BR>Just remember I love ya, you have become a good friend to me and I am here whenever you need me.<P>Jill

ceecee,<BR>I know in my state more than one lawyer told me that not only would the court not make me sell the house, but that they favor having the custodial parent keep the house until the youngest is 18, to provide stability. Don't believe everything the idiot says. Actually, don't believe anything he says.

Thanks you guys. I think is spelled moran wrong, it should be MORON! That man is a thorne in my side. H just brought our daughter back. I said that I would like to talk for a few minutes. He said, about what. It's over, why can't you get that through your head. I said, fine, do whatever you need be, but I WILL BE HAPPY. Not you or anyone else can fill me up, only me. He said good, you deserve that. I told him not to call me anymore, that he needs to leave a message on the machine when he wants to see our daughter. I told him that until he changes his attitude toward me, I have nothing left to say. Then he says, "look, I'm the one here who is stopping this cycle of anger." Oh, give me a break. Is that why 20 minutes ago you were cursing and screaming in front of our daughter. What a jerk. There are better men out there, right????

Right!! And this idiot sure doesn't deserve you! I'm sorry cc, I value marriage very highly, but not to someone like that!! Get a lawyer, protect yourself and your daughter. Don't let him have everything his way. If you have to get good and mad, then do it!!! He's certainly given you good reason.<P>Moron.... I can think of better words!<P>Let us know how you're doing and hang in there, ok?<BR>

Hi CeeCee,<BR> Wow, this all makes me so mad....I also don't think he can make you sell the house....get a lawyer ASAP,this man will only look out for himself.....Lu

CeeCee: i am sorry for what you are going thru, you deserve better than this, remeber that.Do what you can to make yourself happy, live the life YOU want to live... the best revenge is to be happy..I bet once he sees you are happy, and can make it without him, he will have second thoughts ( ? ) and by then, you will know you don't need him, that you deserve better and you will GET better!<BR>Will share my margaritas with ya :-)

WHAT A SELFISH JERK!!!!<BR>never made a mistake leaving his other wives?!?!<BR>JERK!<BR>ok, i feel better. My H at least has the decency to LIE THROUGH HIS TEETH and tell me i'm the great love of his life...<BR>nope, don't believe a thing he says, there are a lot of divorce websites with a lot of good information out there. just be prepared.

CC, what everyone else has said.<BR>He yells at you and blames you to displace his guilt over what he has done. You can't feel angry and guilty at the same time. The more guilt he has to deny, the angier the outburst. Cry all you want/need to but do not take any of the blame for his affair. If he was so concerned about the state of the marriage, he would have gone to counselling with you.

My 6 year old has recently learned the word "moron" - and has been calling everyone lately. Just last week I sat him down and explained the meaning of the word to him.<P>A moron is an adult who acts between 8 and 10 years old....<P>Perfect description of your H. <P>Do not lovebust, Do not hide the tears, Do what is right and remain a lady. Someone has to be the adult here....<P>Geez..... Where's that fryin' pan?

This question is probably going to tick people off who are in multiple marriages, but I'm going to ask anyway:<P>At what point (i.e. after how many marriages) does it become an indicator of how well a person is able to handle marriage?<P>I kind of feel that anyone can make a mistake (i.e. married too young, married for the wrong reason, etc.), but by the time you've been through 2 or 3 divorces, isn't it time to look inside oneself and ask why?<P>I'd bet that ceecee's H made the same mistakes in their marriage that he made in his previous marriages. He's probably learned nothing, and he'll keep repeating the same mistake.<P>My mother's on her second marriage, and she's just as unhappy in this one as she was in her first -- for different reasons. Because SHE HAS NOT CHANGED. She has not learned. My father's second marriage is happier because his wife is a saint and a very self-sufficient and smart woman who doesn't look to him for more than he can give. My sister is about to embark on her third marriage, with two broken engagements between #2 and this one, and I doubt she's learned anything either.<P>There seem to be a lot of betrayers who are betraying their 3rd and 4th marriages. I'm not sure that's an accident.<P>Opinions?

ceecee, <P>Yes!! There are better men out there. And you certainly deserve one so, does your daughter. <P>It sounds like your H is in serious need of a good butt kicking. It is beyond me why a man (a use the term loosely in your H's case), would feel the need rub your nose in his problems. Calling him a moron is being kind. Stay strong for your daughter. Her daddy is loseing it. What he doesn't realize is the devastation he is causing in the life of his daughter. Control yourself the best you can around him. Don't stoop to his level. Some day he will reap what he is sowing and realize what he's done to you and other people.<P>God bless you and your daughter during this very difficult time.<P>SHA

CeeCee....<BR>Your post made me think about a bumper sticker my aunt gave me for my b-day...<BR>"All men are IDIOTS...... and I married their KING!"........<BR>Sorry to the guys, but I'm having a hard time dealing with the "Y Chromosome Defect" today.<P>I agree.... GET A LAWYER! If you don't want to file for divorce.... at least file for Legal Separation. The protection is the same..... and it can be changed at any time. You might be surprised to find out what he can & can't do..... selling the house is one!<P>Keep us posted! <BR>Good Luck & God Bless,<BR>Butterfly<P>------------------<BR>My favorite quote....<BR>"Hello, this is God. I will be handeling your problems today. I will not need your help, so sit back and have a good day."<BR>

B-fly, It goes both ways. Women say and do these things just as well as men. Lets keep the masandry in check.<P>I agree with everything else.

Hear, hear....<P>The ability to be an anal orifice is truly equal-opportunity.

OK Guys, SORRY <BR>When I posted that earlier I had just had a run-in w/ my H (stb-x?????). I had to deliver the separation papers to him at work today.... He wouldn't answer the phone or the door yesterday when I tried to be nice & take them to him at "his" house. I was just venting a little.... didn't mean to offend you guys. Forgive me?? Please. <P>Hey TnT.... I think I know where "the" frying pan is..... LOL! .<P>Have a great night everyone.<BR>Butterfly<BR><P>------------------<BR>My favorite quote....<BR>"Hello, this is God. I will be handeling your problems today. I will not need your help, so sit back and have a good day."<BR>