Again, mucho, mucho apologies for the time thing!<P>I may have to break things down bit by bit for you and bring the page back up to when I can add to it. <P>It sure as heck might keep me from deleting 3 hrs of work again!!<P>Your birthday: 4/3/65 makes you an Aries/(Wood) Snake. Hello fellow Wood/Snake!!<P>Your H: 12/16/61 is a Sagitarrius/(Metal) Ox.<P>As far as my memory serves this should be a good compatibilty but let's take a look:<P>Ox with Snake:<P>A slithery Snake wraps herself around an Ox yoke. Content, the Ox welcomes this. But the valiant, seductive viper has enough sang-foid to strangle dead the cautious Ox. (Ooops)<P>A Snake feels cozy in the Ox's warm embrace. And why not? Well, the fickle Snake has an appetite for flesh - especially flesh as yet unexplored. Oxen are devoutly monogamous. Deep down, of course, the Snake is devoted to the Os, whose stability is vitally important for the Snake's survival. If the Ox can learn to tame a love-wounded ego, and control a jealous temper, this beast can hold on better than anyone else to a Snake. After all, the Ox has all the money, power and patience.<P>Should the Ox start to fret over depleted reserves, the Snake must surreptitiously drag him off to bed. The Ox is happy to oblige with lusty quantity but, to keep the reptile's eye from wandering, must develop more imaginative forepllay. This union can<BR>be a good one, if the Ox can remain courageous and undaunted by a tricky Snake mate.<P>Hey! I resent that! <P>I can't remember if you were the BS or WS. It doesn't really matter but just to let you know, I've had profiles for WS Ox's before--so you can't believe everything you read!<P>More later. I need to at least give F A a little start since I promised.<P>In the meantime, read the thread I made for Ronster. Specifically under the P.S. section (third entry down, I think) This applies to you as well.<P> I'll do an Aries/Snake and Wood Snake and also your H's portions at a later date..<P>Aloha,<P>Leilana <P>

Ohhh thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into this Lei ( so sorry ya lost it and had to redo)<P>I hope you had a fabulous week. I appreciate this so much!!!!!<P>mucho mahalo's!!!!

SNL, I'm not even going to get into careers here but after reading both your and your H's profile info, I'm inclined to believe you guys make scads of money. I just have to know - is that true?!<P>For Aries/Snakes in love:<P>All Snakes desperately need to be loved and Aries/Snakes are no exception to the rule. What sets Aries/Snakes apart from other Aries in matters of the heart is their real touch with the deepest recesses ofhuman nature. Snakes don't miss a trick. They are not only observant, but they are so instintive. Spookily so. Snakes feel things in a way that Aries rarely can. So again, Aries, benefits from her Snakeism. Ardor and caring, not always native to Aries, will be omnipresent in the Aries/Snake. What's more, the otherwise egocentric Aries personality will be tempered by the Snake's real ability to create and maintain love relationships. <P>Contrarily, the Snake's graspingness will be held in check by Arie's good-scoutism. The Aries/Snake will not be so all-fired possessive of her loved ones as are so many other Snakes. Finally, the candor of Aries causes the Snake to moderate her tendency toward infidelity. Aries turns the Snake's promiscuity into a quest for brotherhood [I'm not sure what she means here but as I had to regenderize all this to female, I might as well replace that word with "sisterhood"]. All the better for Snake.<P>Your Sagittarius/Ox H in love:<P>The Sagittarius/Ox is usually married. Or perhaps one should say he is unusually married. These folks often exhibit fervent fidelity in love relationships. They advertise their love for their mate. They tell you how wonderful old Marsha is or what a terrific doctor Louise has learned to be or how Jane is going to save the world. It can be very flattering for both the Sagittarian Ox and the wife. Otherwise I'm not sure the Sagittarius/Ox would do it. These tough customers are just a wee bit on the public side - not show-offy unless they have something to say, but they always have plenty to say! <P>If you love a Sagittarius/Ox and he doesn't return your love, you will be fiercely unhappy. This person would be very hard to lose. But should you still have a chance to nab this ultragood catch, before wedlock sets in you should be advised to make it your business to understand working on a team of which you are decidedly not the coach. Learn how to track Ox footprints thru the desert in the summer. You'll be needing all the breadcrumbs you can stash. Sagittarius/Oxen are serious practitioners of the science of self-promotion and narrow-minded, unswerving belief in the strong-arm method of winning. And they always win.<P>(Wow! Be back in a minute...)<P>

The Wood/Snake (you, F A, me!) born in 1965--other '65 Wood/Snakes include Brooke Sheilds, Robert Downey, Jr. and Charlie Sheen - isn't if funny it's kind of been a rough year and a half period for these guys, too!:<P>This Snake is the public speaker, the actor, the skillful communicator and presenter of grand-scale ideas. Their exquisite laying out of information guarantees them success. They knows instinctively what place in society they want to carve out for themselves.<P>Altho the Wood Snake suffers from more than their share of reversals, they will make a million comebacks, returning valiantly to the front lines to begin again, perhaps in antoher way, to climb the golden ladder of success. The Wood Snake, like all Snakes, has to fight a tendency to laziness and an exaggerated love of luxury for its own sake but because of their intense will to reap applause, renown and great wealth, they will always overcome their negative penchant for sloth.<P>They are dreamers and often have to force themselves to be practical. But, unlike some Snakes who are incapable of disciplining themselves, when it comes to making money, the Wood Snake can be downright pragmatic. If they can't make it as a painter, they'll try illustrating children's books and if that doesn't work, they'll go into advertising or commercial design. The point is to get there. Any means to the end is valid. The Wood Snake may be vain but they are not proud. They are always able to discern winning from just getting by - and they know that what they want most is to win.<P>As a bona fide Snake, they are conscious of a deep-seated sneaking desire to enjoy all the pleasures of life. They are not one to refuse the joys of the palate, the eye, the ear and whatever else they can get their body round. No matter how immense their projects or public their image, the Wood Snake is always furiously involved in seeking new ways to enjoy themself.<P>The Wood Snake's drive always to achieve fame and fortune is powered by their ambition to please, to win approval and to get their persona across to their audience or public. They love kudos and being admired is their drug. They are perfectionists in their work and stop at nothing to learn more, ever challenging their intellect to break thru new territory and find novel means of transporting both their charismatic image and powerhouse ideas to the world. <P>All Wood Snakes suffer from rejection. It is difficult for them to accept flaws in others. They want their partners to be wholly attentive to and responsible for their well-being. They require constant attention and big doses of compassion and understanding to survive. They also need security and a calm environment to thrive. If the object of their affection cannot provide these or doesn't measure up to the draconian criteria set forth by this demanding lover, the Wood Snakes's heart may be broken. [Amen!] <P>Altho they demand intellectual freedom for themself and are scandalously flirtatious [hey, I can <I>control</I> that!] - they are jealous, exclusive and monopolistic when it comes to love. They will never take a back seat or allow total freedom to the other person. For the sake of their love for another, the Wood Snake is not above dissembling and committing emotional blackmail. They will make their loved one feel guilty until they either conform to their ideal or give up and leave. Emotional involvement with the Wood Snake is anything but simple: the rules are hard to follow for anyone who has outside interests. Extricating oneself is even harder. The unsticking of the Wood Snake's stubborn tentacles of unconditional love and devotion from someone they love is a horrible, painful process to observe.<P>As being left alone is exactly what this Snake fears most, the loss of a loved one can mean physical as well as nervous collapse. Serious illness and depression may overcome the poor bereft creature. The road back will be long and arduous but they do come back and, once restored in body and mind, they enjoy renewed stability, rekindled ardor and belief in the all-powerful emotin for which they truly live - love.<P>People adore this charming character. Their presence is always desirable as they talk easily and have a quick sense of humor. The Wood Snake really likes social intercourse: they are happiest when surrounded and adored. They are friendliest when they know they are liked and is a wonderful friend whose wise advice is invaluable to their many cronies. They are fervent advocates of the arts. They spend much time and money promoting cultural activities. Their homes are showplaces of precious works of art and antiques. They entertain with generosity and style. Their manner is obliging and , as long as their own advancement and personal interests are in no way compromised, they will go far out of their way to accomodate those they care for.<P><BR>

Your Ox MAN:<P>Ox is a rich sign for a man, full of potential greatness. But that power must be used positively or demon tyranny may set in, cement replace brains and the fight is on! <P>Even at rest they think about work. Firstly, they always endeavor to succeed with almost mindless resolve and have no time for frivolity unless it helps them achieve their objective. An Ox man will attend a party if he thinks he'll meet someone there he need to know for professional reasons. You might even get a recalcitrant Ox to go to a gym or take him on a shoppping spree , providing you give him a sound reason as to how his participation in what he considers a waste of time will advance him. <P>He is not an able one-to-one communicator. Timid and retiring, he does not improvise well and is incapable of thinking on his feet. <P>Don't ever ask an Ox man the classis "Do you love me?" question and expect a decent answer. You will only get him blushing, brooding, or sulking and grouchy. Cornering an Ox male is not a good idea and it will only get him even more tongue-tied. He will never be a romeo. IF he does love you - and he is perfectly capable of great, undying, long-suffering love - the Ox man will demonstrate his love in the only way he knows how: you may find all the wood you need for your fireplace for a year piled up outside your door (or whatever the Maui equivalent of that would be!), or a leather bankbook in your name with several thousand dollars deposited therein under your pillow, or a shiny new landrover in your garage, etc. Usually he will not hand the present to you - he is too diffident or afraid of surprise to dare such a gesture. He is annoyingly timid, but enormously generous, with those he loves. But don't count on the Ox for cheap frills: he will never be spendthrift and say, buy you a $1,000 nightie.<P>Ox men do not take risks. They like to be sure of what the prize is before leaping with all four hoofs into any project. They are cautious, prudent, and get no pleasure from the uncertainty of being routed off the beaten path. Impermanence makes them uncomfortable. They would be happy in a world where the ephemeral didn't exist. The Ox man is neither a guesser nor a hazarder of opinion. He'd rather be late than wrong and deplores philosophical conjecturing and vain specualtion. The Ox is a man of almanacs and atlases, road maps and compasses, dictionaries, thesauruses and encyclopedias. <P>(I've never understood this part!) In love, the Ox male is constant yet physically unfaithful. He loves profoundly and supports and sticks firmly by his family commitments. He will always be there when his partner needs him. But the Ox man does not consider sexual love to be in the same league as married love and devotion. To him, love and sex are separate. He is sensual and loves the good life. He is addicted to comfort, fine food and wine and is fairly easy to please so long as these needs are seen to.<P>The sex act is so far removed from what he thinks of as love that the Ox male is capable of having sex with almost anyone, but he can only love very few people. The Ox male's emotions are intricately connected to his unyielding heart. His public image has little or nothing to do with his inner feelings and his secret self is unavailable for viewing by even his most intimate friends or lovers unless they're very lucky.<P>They can be sticks in the mud and obtuse yet the Ox is loyal, capable of great personal sacrifice for those he loves and is deeply wounded when true love goes wrong. He can be vengeful and even dangerous when wronged.<P>The Ox man is not the type to freak out if his wife cheats on him sexually, but if she falls in love with someone else, leaves him and/or deserts the kids, the Ox can become dangerously depressed. Remember, he cannont show tenderness without feeling embarrassed so he keeps emotion in, never seeks outside aid or even consults with friends. Eventually something gives, and it is very often his nerves. And that would make him even more cranky and nasty as he disdains nervous or psychosomatic illnesses. <P>Submitting before deleting...my new motto.

Metal Ox--Eddie Murphy, Princess Di, Michael J. Fox.(1961) Gary Cooper, Walt Disney (1901) <P>Charisma. A magical quality about them: an aura or halo surrounds their spirit and glows. People are automantically drawn to their warm public personality.<P>If you are the partner of a Metal Ox, remember that you are expected to be not only faithful, loyal and true, but also dutiful, jolly and uptempo. We already know the Metal Ox pushes too hard to get to the top but because not every day brings sufficient victory, he will grow frustrated and often come home in a foul temper. At these times, he is unreachable, lost in a haze of blue smoke in a sulk. <P>As far as he is concerned, it is your job either to get him out of it or to get out yourself. You can argue, he will argue back. You can shout, he will do likewise. You can even reason, and he will engage you in a reasoning match. But your Metal Ox will not accept criticism. He cannot tolerate reassessment of his methods or approach by anyone but himself. This refusal to see your point of view may slow him down but he will not care - his pride gets in the way of his grey matter.<P>They tend to mistrust the judgement of those closest to them in favor of that of a perfect stranger - a dangerous attitude as strangers may attempt to dupe him.<P>He grows more conservative and right wing as he ages. He has a dream-world ideal. As life doesn't always happen like that, he is frequently in a state of semi-despair, carping and grumbing and finding fault with society and today's lazy youth or hippies or hooligans, etc., every body except his own clan. Never critisize his work, his person or his family. Only he is allowed to tear them apart at home behind closed shutters. To the outside world, Ox and all that is his are perfect.<P>His artistic side is his greatest saving grace. It keeps him from being a total gloomy Gus.<P>He is intuitive and will listen to your problems and advise you, but if you don't use his suggestions, he will take umbrage. The Metal Ox is reliable and monstrously hard-working. He is an excellent provider and will always keep a roof over the heads ofhis loved ones. If you have lots of easy-going patience, take up with a Metal Ox. If you have trouble accepting criticism, steer a wide berth around him and bag yourself another bull. (Or better yet, I'd suggest you negotiate!)<P>And there you have it! I'm going to moi moi now. Still on my 12hr shifts. Hope you're having a great weekend over there on the Valley Isle. It's been beautiful (from what I could see thru the windows) here on the Garden Isle. <P>a hui hou aku,<P>Leilana

Aloha!<P>Just a quick note, I was able to get time to do extensive work on the "Generic Snake" profile if you're interested. This is for you, me, Ronnie and F A. <P>To find it go to the "for F A..." thread I'm making and look for the smiley face icon. I think I start off by explaining it's for all Snakes. <P>I'm finally not so rushed for time. I'm actually using my vacation hours to do this as I took some time off from work today. But they could call me back in at any moment.<P> Yay! I finally found a way to get paid for doing something totally fun!<P>So how are things going with your Ox? They really are the Snake's top choice for mates, you know.<P>Spock you laterz, my unusually big chi-chi'd Snake friend!<P>L