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#401669 07/25/00 10:05 PM
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Today was our first day of counseling. It was a little awkward at first but at least my h opened up more than I had expected him to. He kept telling the counselor that he loved me and the kids and the last thing he wanted to do was loose us. I have a question though??<BR>My husband told the counselor that he met her at his new job which is a launch project and they were working very long hours. He said that she continuously pursued him and she just wore him down. I asked him how he could keep lying to me when I was accusing him and allow this to cause all these problems in our marriage.<BR>He stated that he meant all he was saying at home but when he left the house he was just a different person and was totally self absorbed. He continues to state that he doesn't know why he did it and that he never loved her etc.<BR>My question is this....if you really love someone can you be in this "out of sight out of mind state"? And if you are in this state of mind why would you even come home? bring your check home etc? He also stated that because I have always been there for him and my family lives out of state (parents are deceased) that he knew if I found out I wouldn't leave him!!! He says it's not true but I told him right in front of the counselor that he must view me as a doormat not a loving wife. I want to finish counseling but right now I feel that I am viewed as an in love nut that would keep him no matter what he does.<BR>I think you should feel that some things are off limits and be afraid of doing them. The counselor touched on him sabatoging (sp) his family and work career which I thought was interesting..has anyone heard of this sabatoge yourself stuff based on your own low self esteem??? help I'm more confused today than before<BR>

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Sorry, no one replied to you yesterday. My H and I have been in counseling since d-day. The first sessions were hard. Even now, we have some tough ones.<P>First, do you like your counselor? Did you interview him/her? I didn't, but I did find his website on the Internet. I learned that he is a Christian, he's been practicing for over 12 years, and he has a actual Ph.D. in Psychology as opposed to Physics like some other therapists. (I'm not saying those therapists are bad, but I wanted someone who's actually trained in how the mind works.) Dr. Harley recommends that you ask your counselor what his goal is for your marriage. If it is not to save the marriage and make it better, than find another counselor.<P>Now, that I have told you everything that you probably already knew, I'll tell you things you may not know. I had a friend who was in a similar situation years ago. She said that after the first four sessions, she was ready for a divorce. She was so mad and she hated her husband. She kept going though because she knew that her marriage was important. Today, they have been married for 30 years, and I think it is a good marriage. If it is a good counselor, I think that it will benefit to keep going. Give him another couple of tries to see if you like him or not.<P>Dr. Harley also says that most counselors concentrate on communication instead of needs. I have been lucky that my counselor who never heard of Dr. Harley, does his own survey that is very similar. It outlined where we were most dissatisfied with the marriage. There were areas of money, affection, sex, children, gender roles. Where we are dissatisfied is where he concentrates on. Now, our counselor also promotes a book called "Fighting for Your Marriage". It is a good book on communication--which is a lot of times a big problem. If you can't communicate your needs, how does your spouse know if he/she is meeting them or not. So, I wouldn't dismiss a counselor just for not preaching Harley. The trick is to use them both. Use your counselor to train you and help yo communicate, use Harley to meet each other's needs.<P>Good luck. Hang in there, but if you are still not happy after another couple of visits, I would find a new counselor. I thinkg that my H and I got lucky when I found that PsychSelect for the DFW metroplex on the Internet. Maybe your area has something similiar if you need it.<P>P.S. You are not a "love nut". You should make it clear to your H though that you will not tolerate this type of behavior again. You would very much like to make your marriage enjoyable for the both of you, but you will not be treated like a doormat. If he cannot commit to you and be faithful to you, you will go to Plan B. You love him, but you cannot continue to let him hurt you by extramarital relationships.<p>[This message has been edited by Lapeine (edited July 26, 2000).]

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR><BR>has anyone heard of this sabatoge yourself stuff based on your own low self esteem??? <BR><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Been there, done that. Still there actually. I'm waiting for the T-shirt. <P>Unfortunately I don't have any answers for you. I'm pretty confused right now, too. All I can really suggest is to give the counseling time. Things will get a little bumpy from time to time as issues are brought to the surface, but that's the only way they can be dealt with.<P><p>[This message has been edited by TruthSeeker (edited July 26, 2000).]


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