artsy<P>Again, I am at a little stunned. You have a Bible-believing family. Where is the faith of that family? <P>I do not think the separation is a good idea. It just keeps you more apart. Try to bear him being close to you. At least, share the bedroom, and take it slow.<P>Why does your husband think it's okay to drink if he's a Christian. He has to check the root of his salvation - what exactly does he think Christ saved him from? ALL his sins! Yes - ALL. That includes drinking and/or smoking. He has to give up his addiction to alcohol. Alcohol itself is a representative of Satan. That is used as a tool to come between you and your husband, but the Bible says "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder". Yet Satan is no man - we tend to underestimate him. Give him an inch, he'll take the whole nine yards!!! Try to find a way to get your husband to get counselling for the alcohol dependancy.<P>If you are going to counselling for your marriage and this is not being addressed, then it's no use. Nothing will change. <P>My husband is unsaved, and he's not really a drinker. He'll have the occasional Heineken beer or spritzer - nothing hard. But I have to constantly deal with the spiritual differences between us. It's not that if your husband is a christian, everything's dandy. But at least you can go to God TOGETHER in prayer. You can pray for one another and lift each other up. I have to do that all on my own and believe me, the weight is tremendous.<P>I hope your husband realizes that he has a good wife and that a good marriage, like anything else, has to be nurtured to grow.<P>God bless and I really do hope that your marriage stays intact. It takes a strong woman to fight for that.<P><BR><P>------------------<BR>CPL

artsy<P>Again, I am at a little stunned. You have a Bible-believing family. Where is the faith of that family? <P>I do not think the separation is a good idea. It just keeps you more apart. Try to bear him being close to you. At least, share the bedroom, and take it slow.<P>Why does your husband think it's okay to drink if he's a Christian. He has to check the root of his salvation - what exactly does he think Christ saved him from? ALL his sins! Yes - ALL. That includes drinking and/or smoking. He has to give up his addiction to alcohol. Alcohol itself is a representative of Satan. That is used as a tool to come between you and your husband, but the Bible says "what God has joined together, let no man put asunder". Yet Satan is no man - we tend to underestimate him. Give him an inch, he'll take the whole nine yards!!! Try to find a way to get your husband to get counselling for the alcohol dependancy.<P>If you are going to counselling for your marriage and this is not being addressed, then it's no use. Nothing will change. <P>My husband is unsaved, and he's not really a drinker. He'll have the occasional Heineken beer or spritzer - nothing hard. But I have to constantly deal with the spiritual differences between us. It's not that if your husband is a christian, everything's dandy. But at least you can go to God TOGETHER in prayer. You can pray for one another and lift each other up. I have to do that all on my own and believe me, the weight is tremendous.<P>I hope your husband realizes that he has a good wife and that a good marriage, like anything else, has to be nurtured to grow.<P>God bless and I really do hope that your marriage stays intact. It takes a strong woman to fight for that.<BR><P>------------------<BR>CPL

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Caribgirl:<BR><B>Why does your husband think it's okay to drink if he's a Christian. <BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Carib, you and I should start another thread on this. Where in scripture does it say drinking alcohol is a sin?<P>If he is an alcoholic that is another issue. I haven't heard her say he is even though he may be.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Dogbert:<BR><B> <P>DOGBERT:<BR>The Bible didn't say drinking is a sin, but it did say: "Be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess". It also says:"Wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging...". The same as over-eating. The Bible says in Proverbs 23:20 "Be not among the winebibers, among riotous eaters of flesh, and in Verse 21 "For the drunkard and the glutton shall come to poverty ..." Now what do you think that means.<P>I don't believe a glass of wine with dinner or a night out will constitute as sin, but if it is done in excess it becomes a sin. She didn't say he is an alcoholic, but she said after one glass of wine, she lost him. Meaning, I guess, that she can't have a reasonable conversation with him because he is in no condition to converse rationally. <P>If you have two glasses of wine and it has absolutely no effect on you, I say fine. But if after one glass you are woozy or tipsy, or even drunk, then it becomes sin!<P>I'm not an expert, I just understand it like this in the Bible.<P>Hope we don't have to fight about this.<P><P>------------------<BR>CPL

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Caribgirl:<BR><B> Hope we don't have to fight about this.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Not looking for a fight. Just didn't want incorrect theology to creep in.<P>

Hope it's settled then. I really enjoy reading your posts, especially between you and soduped. By the way, Dogbert, how do you become a member? I've been a junior member since I started. Do you have to be posting for a particular time before you become a member?<P>And how is it now with your spouse? Read my post with a suggestion for you included - about the nightlight.<P>------------------<BR>CPL

Post 1 more time (30 posts I think) and you should become one.<P>Or you could send me money...

Dogbert, <BR>That's very funny. <P>I don't exactly misplace him after one drink, but rarely does one drink get it for him. There is no difference between wine, beer and the hard stuff. One glass of wine is equivalent to one shot of alcohol. Same with beer. I think we split hairs on this topic. I would love to have a lite Miller with dinner but I can't...why? My H would have two and then the merry go round would start. It's a slippery slope even if you don't label the slope....alcoholism. I'm not even sure where I would jump into this debate. You can bet my h had a beer or two before he took the plunge with the OW.