[img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] redhat, I took your advice, and sent away for Checkmate, WoW! I can't believe it, 9 out of 10 articales of H clothing test positive for s*@#men. I never realized he was having so much sex.It's almost everytime he leaves the house with out me, which isn't very often. OW must live near by. I just figured it out she has tto, it's probably before work, I have noticed him leaving quite abit earlier a couple of days this past week.Then comming home a half hourlater some days when the driving distance is usaule the same. This is why the makeup, and lipstick on a paper towel, showing up in or behind the trash when he gets home. Checkmate is pretty easy to use, if the litnus paper turns purple after you saturated an area that you suspect has seamam with this liquid stuff. Dip in the paper, and there you have it. Almost everthing he wore to work, to his fire protection meeting's. turned up purple. OK now I have what I knew to be exactly what I had always kown. He, of course never had any idea what those dry flaky,white, and some not so flaky spots were. He was wearing the clothes, yet I knew. H would tell me I was parainoied, and yell at me for looking at his clothes while I did the laundry. H would always denie, lipstick , perfume, and well I already told you. Now what do I do, what do I say. What if H just denies this also. Help, I need to put my foot down. Why should he stop when I can't really prove it. I have tried to throw him out before, H wouldn't leave. Told me all you are doing is taking guess'es in the wind. This was suppose to be his way of convincing me that he wasn't doing anyhting wrong, and there was no reason for him to leave. Saying I was guessing, told me the truth. Now with this new proof, how do I handel showing him. I thought of taking H to the Pastors with me, and doing it to H clothes in front of the two of them. Of course I would sent Pastor the website to read before hand. What if H still denies this new evedenice, But will he in front of our Paster...

TruthCer,
Don't do it. Use this evidence for your own sanity. This evidence alone is not enough. He could say he goes out and m@strub@t3. Do not confront H and forget about your pastor. Your pastor probably knows a lot from H's confession !. Now, you say you have a voice activated recorder, buy one if you don't have one, make sure you use the 90 minutes tape. Find a spot in his truck to hid it near the engine. Before H is leaving on his "regular" schedule you turn the recording on. The idea is you at least will know the timing from the engine starts and the engine turned off, including even the noice and engine performance (stop, slowing or speeding). Gather the info several times & be patience. Also make a chart on which days H has s*@#men. You could estimate the distance from the tape by driving the route yourself and guess from the noise that you record. Again I warn you not to do anything foolish, that info (if you found H's car where it doesn't belong) is for your research and see how much trouble your M is into. Drive away and regroup again for the next plan. No LB, o'k ?.<p>What to do with H ?. Well, I beleive you want to save your H. Confronting H will not bring him back. You need to get busy on plan A'ng him. How much have you learn about MB ?, Instinct&Habit, EN, LB,LB$, plan A/B ? Do you have plan A list, detail issue(s) and action(s) ?.<p>IMVHO, why don't you SF him and seduce H in the morning before he leave work ?. Get him horney to you and leave the left over to OW ?. wear him out ... LOL !!!.

bump ... how is your snooping ? any update ?.

dear TC- listen to red-HI RED- he knows what he says. dont do anything with the info untill you are cool and composed. i havent been on lately because of running spy programs on computer and other devious things-thanks red!- i have to say that my situation is different-i know about definite PA. what i have been surprised at is he has been truthfull with me lately anyway. there may be hope for my wh yet. just dont do anything in haste. collect all you can-i know it hurts-it still hurts if you attack him with it though-then you just feel bad for not being the good person you are and were before all this started. things changed for me when i realized that i could leave this situation two ways-broken and destroyed or stronger and better. i chose stronger and better. i also realized i had something they would never have again truely--my honesty, my integrity, and my self respect. and i refuse to give any of them up to them. my husband has committed himself to me and is doing everything to make this right. we have a long hard road and i am not the most forgiving person in this world-but we are really trying. good luck and thanks red for all your great advice to me and others!!!!!!!!!!