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SpyWife, I belong to S-Anon - an on-line support group that is closed to the general public. The only way you can get to it is by invitation.

I understand the control issue - BTDT!

Marc, in the words of the program: WORK YOUR OWN PROGRAM!!! And let your wife work hers. and leave it up to HP where you meet. You just work the best program you can, taking your own fearless moral inventory - not your wife's! (I've been through my husband's SA program where for his first year he came home to tell me how his group told him how badly I was screwing up his life! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> )

If you really want to heal your marriage, you can't dictate how your wife recovers from a disease that was foisted onto her against her will!!!!!

The only bad influence in recovery is one that limits another's access to support from people who have been there, done that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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I'm so sorry that it has led to this, I kept my mouth shut becuase all the people here are so good, and the concepts are quite admirable. I'm no such person, yet. I'm judgemental and idealistic. These are words used by people who know me and my IC. Though, this is true I know that they all love and respect me for who I am. My S/O other is included. I now know and understand (even though he's been saying it to me from the start), what he did and thought was his problem. It wasn't becuase of ME, he didn't disrespect me, rather he was disrespecting himself, didn't love himself, and was trying to self-destruct for the things he had gone through. He never resolved his problems because he had no-one to help him. He's not doing that anymore.

I guess my rambling is pointing to my opinion that you, SpyWife, has been one of the most amazing person. If I was in your shoes, I'd be doing and saying a lot of different things. Pride rules me, and it still does. I haven't decided that I am willing to let that go as yet. So, I make my SO's life hell. I want him to pay for what he's done. In fact, I want all of them to pay for having a hand in hurting me.

So Marc, if your lurking, thank your lucky stars that this great human-being has graced you with her presence.
I know all affairs are painful, and my SO has been a real stupid, sorry excuse of a human-being, but had he tried to pick girls up for SF, or had he truly enjoyed it (rather than just used them all like the *ho%$s that they are), or or had he wanted anything more, or had an EA, I wouldn't care how sorry he was now.
SpyWife has been so patient, understanding , forgiving and caring towards you here. She's put a lot of work into your relationship and thank goodness, into her well-being.

Last time I wrote, I said I expect him to be exclusive to me(in body, soul and mind) always and forever. I believe this is possible. I hear some people saying this is impossible as everyone will look. There's a difference. You can look and just acknowledge someone is good-looking (like a brother/sister) in a non-sexual way, then there's the other where you let your mind wonder into dangerous territory, that leads to fantasy.

My SO has been doing more soul searching because he believes he is a good person. He is uncovering many events in his life that has impacted on him, but he denied to himself (e.g. who's heard of women taking advantage of a guy who can over power her physically? It's unnatural for a guy to be ashamed of not wanting SF, right? NOT).

Anyway, that's enough from me. I'll write.

I extend to you my sincere hope that you will take care of yourself, and you will obtain happiness.

Marc.
PS: The only way through anything this difficult is through being honest to oneself (good or bad), otherwise your cheating even yourself, not just the person you claim to care about.

PPS: I'll share one final personal thing. This is what lifted the ultimate fog for my SO.
I told him about a vision I had of us in our nineties. We have a house near the beach and we go out for a walk every day, hand-in-hand. We go there to pick up a momentum. When we find it, we look into each other's eyes and see the miricles (experiences) we've shared in our lives. There's a little sadness for the things we've hurt each other, but most of the memories over the past seventy years are amazing.

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<small>[ October 24, 2002, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: SpyWife2002 ]</small>

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Hello, I see this post has been "dead" for some time. I to am the wife of a recovering sex addict. I have read doofus posts, and was nearly convinced he was my husband- still have not excluded that possibility, there are some differences, but then SA's are notorious liars and could be a cover up for his identity. Anyhow, anybody still around? those married to SA's? I also wanted to know who else thinks that the "co-addict" title for the spouses, is a bunch of cr@p? I'm sure there are some, but to put that on all spouses is so dumb. That's why I do not like COSA and some of the other centers like them. My husband sees a certified sex addiction counselor. Anybody else in this boat-you know, the one with the big leak.

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