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#415633 07/04/02 05:28 PM
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Uk-er one thing I regret above all else is that in desperation I threatened to throw him out and he decided to walk out. H told the kids and so far has refused to return.
Jante

#415634 07/06/02 02:43 PM
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H is now with her for the weekend after we dropped the children off at cub camp last night.I went out with my childminder last night and told her the story (is that the right word!!)she thought i had cancer because of the weight loss and had no idea what we were going through.
H said last night I'm night flying on monday(pilot) i said i had arranged to go out so he said he would change it to wednesday.....H is meant to be telling our children on tuesday that he is leaving .... so why is he telling me that he's night flying the bloody fog seems toooo thick!!!!!
I feel quite calm at present these pills are doing wonders,,, Life will be good to me because he is the loser i have my children..
Thanks for all your help and guidance i don't think i would be as strong if it weren't for this forum and all you guys many many thanks. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

#415635 07/07/02 03:40 AM
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Dear uk-er,
This is very, very hard for you - a long long week and you are doing so well. You are doing the right thing by going out with your girlfriend - this lets him know you are not going to be sitting at home crying over him - he doesn't have to know you are out with your girlfriend crying over him. It will be something he thinks back on later - that you are a strong enough person to get out and get on with your life - it is also good that you are going out and thereby reducing your chances of getting drawn into an argument - especially on the night before he is supposed to tell the children. My friends also noticed my weight-loss - I lost a stone and a half in one month.

Did your doctor give you antidepressants? I have been on these once before, for PND - they were a lifesaver for me.

You are doing well //////uk-er - those are pats on the back. You want to be able to look back on this time and be able to hold your head up, knowing you behaved with dignity and grace. Other people will respect you for it, when the truth comes out, and it will count for a lot no matter what happens.

Don't give up hope on your H. He is, like you said, flying into the fog. Do you know this OW? Do you know anything about her? It may take time, but sooner or later, the fantasy he is living in will become harsh reality - that's when you may start to see him shake his head and wake up a little. Not till then.

Take care -
Odile

#415636 07/14/02 04:53 AM
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I didn't think I would ever post this but THANKYOU for all your guidance ...it worked,Last tuesday i met h from work and asked him to go to the doctors he keeps breaking down, he then said he couldn't tell the children, the next day he saw the doc...depression 3wks off work and came home and said he had rung her to call it all off and ask for no contact...h burnt all the letters cards and sent other things off to her i posted it, we couldn't agree on a no contact letter so we agreeded on no letter. H has given me his mobile phone yes we can manage without them!!
He has been great we talk for an hour each day, it's very painful for me. We have changed our counsellor as i felt she talked about separation tooo much, we are awaiting Harley's book on affairs.
She has been in touch with text messages but i have only seen them and cleared them so h doesn't know. H is off to work for 1 hour tomorrow to hand over i have asked if she rings to put the phone down and ring me but as h is not at work for 6 weeks( holiday as well) i have to get through that hour tomorrow .

THANKS to everyone i know we have an uphill struggle but at least thats more than most have . I'm so glad i found you lot Plan A certainly worked for me. I'll keep posting but probably not that frequently love to you all...Jante, Odile, lady in red <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

#415637 07/14/02 08:07 AM
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So pleased to read that UK-er- keep us posted but we understand it won't be frequently.
Jante

#415638 07/14/02 08:32 AM
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Dear uk-er,
This is such good news - your good plan A has helped you to be able to get to this point,but now your work really begins in earnest, and you have to remember that you are not out of the woods yet.

If you read "shattered vows" on www.findarticles.com, you will see that many of the things your H has now done are the best signs you can have for a full recovery, but just because he has decided to stay does not mean that it is all over, or will be the way you want it from now on.

He may go through "withdrawal" - it would help you to read up on that - he had this fantasy life worked out in his mind, and as miserable as it may be for you to be aware of, he may miss the OW for awhile. This may make him grouchy and irritable with you at times and he will feel guilty about snapping at you. You need to do just what you did this week and be patient and loving, and not retaliate with anger if you see this happening. Otherwise he could do another about-face and be out the door again.

You also need to now start asking yourself if there is anything you could do to better yourself - you have already made some changes in you for the better, and he has noticed these, but he will also be watching for consistency. This is where the emotional needs and love busters AND recreational companionship questionnaires can be really helpful. I know I didn't realize just how much my H needed Admiration and RC - these are things he has found with OW. I made it my policy to pay him at least one genuine compliment a day - I looked for one thing I still liked or could admire about him, and I made sure I said so to him - sometimes this is hard - I am still working on this - but I told myself that there were many good things about him that I had liked in the beginning, and that I could still like in him, and when I did this, it helped keep my perspective of him in balance - especially when you are dealing with the resentment that surfaces afterwards. The WS goes through a period of hating himself for what he has done - this also lets him know in very small, specific ways why you can still find things to love about him. He may say to you that he doesn't understand why you can still love him. This helps get you through that - but don't stop doing it - if this is one of his top ENs and for most men, it is - it should become a basic part of your day - your daily compliment to him.

I am so glad to hear you have his chance and I will continue to pray for you. I am going to Paris for a week's holiday, but will check back in next week.

Take care and good luck.
LIR

P.S. I am Miss O - I changed my name last week t something more positive. I'm the one who told you you'd be glad to not hand him to the OW on a silver platter. Oh, one thing - you say that you are erasing her msgs on his cellphone. I know - I did this, too and my H still doesn't know I did this, but it is dishonest, and it might backfire on you - you say he gave you his cellphone? Does he mean for you to keep it for awhile? In which case, it is probably OK. But beware of being put in the position of being his jailer - he could then turn and say you were trying to control him. These moves have to be his decisions.

#415639 07/14/02 02:18 PM
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Dear UK-er,

It is so uplifting to learn that your efforts brought responsiveness in your H. Are you going to change your screen name?
I wish you the best and hope more of us will post similar news someday.
FBOW

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