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#419801 12/06/02 01:08 AM
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Hello everyone: Just wanted to say hi and let all my old friends know I am still around, reading, feeling stronger, and in recovery. Thanks all. wu

#419802 12/06/02 01:15 AM
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Hi Wucus,

Good to hear from you. Care to share your story? There are so many new ones here.

take care,
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#419803 12/07/02 11:20 AM
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Hey wu ... glad to hear from you and glad that MB helps your M. I am happy 4 U. Thank for dropping by and hope U care to share your story in recovery for newbie. A drop of hope is what the doctor order ... LOL !!!
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#419804 12/07/02 04:07 PM
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Congratulations wucus!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Successful updates are always so encouraging, especially for those just starting on this painful difficult journey!! How about a recap for those new on this board and not familiar with your situation!!

#419805 12/08/02 06:22 AM
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good to hear from you, wu - and glad to hear you are in recovery - keep up whatever it is you are doing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />
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#419806 12/12/02 07:56 PM
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Well, Since u asked <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

My H met a woman from another country at a internet game. I found out about their relationship about a month into it. I was a week into mourning my mother's death. My first reaction was to scream, yell, and throw him out. That was my second reaction too!!! That was in November of 01. I stopped communicating with my H for a time because I had no idea how to deal with the pain I was feeling. The holidays were a farce last year. H was secretly still keeping his relationship going over the internet and the phone. He would buy calling cards and call her and she would call our home when I was at work.

Then in January I found Marriagebuilders. Yeah!!!! and gained some wonderful friends and insight that helped me to deal with things. I tried Plan A for about six months but I also did some "Love Must Be Tough" as RedHat can tell u. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> H left town for about three weeks in January to visit a friend. It was out of town that their relationship intensified and ours was quickly going down the drain. Although they had never seen each other they were planning.

To try to deter them I even tried to befriend the OW. Big mistake. She was a liar and a cheat and he could not see it to save his life. I also listened in on phone calls, recorded phone calls, got a keyboard recorder, etc. James Bond would have been proud of me. I was determined not to be fooled. Ha, Ha.

When he returned home about three weeks later, around Valentines Day I discovered that he had called her and was regularly doing so. I kicked him out. I got violent and he called the police on me. We have two young girls by the way. And OW may have also been married. I say may have because I do not know what if anything she said was true. But she was one tough customer I will tell u that.

Two weeks later H came back home after promising to end contact. Lie. I discovered they were still at it and it was about this time I was communicating with OW myself. She loved rubbing it in my face and I used that somehow to my advantage.

I could not take it anymore so I revealed that I was communicating with her and she read his emails to her to me. I kicked him out again. This time he vowed never to talk to her again. Yeah right. Not only was that a lie but this time he ended up flying over to her country, a fourteen hour flight. They were intimate and a week later she claimed she was pregnant with twins no less. Yes he admitted to unprotected sex and a whole lot of other nasty things I wish my memory did not hold right now. Anyway, I made it clear to him that I would not expose my children to some other woman's child that was conceived out of adultery. I invited him to leave if he was still in love with her, blah, blah, blah. This fog was so thick a chain saw was needed. ( to sever his head from his body <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> )

We began talking and even called and talked to Dr. Harley a time or two. He was still lying. Anyway to make a long story short I kicked him out at least three more times. He was out of work, quickly losing friends and I pretty much hated him.

I decided that I had to Plan B. I wrote the letter and did the deed and he lied to get back into our home.

He started working in September of this year and had access to the internet and the phone. Contact continued until I again contacted her and of course she rubbed it in my face that I did not know the whole story. I asked him to leave and to please just get out of my life. Forever. He became angry with her and for the first time felt bad he said. After all he put me through it took him a year to feel bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> He told her goodbye, she sent me about 45 emails he had sent her during our fake recovery number 1200. He sees that she coached him to tell her some things and write some things maybe because she had plans all along. He has not looked back.

We talk about the pain and although we have only been in recovery two months, he has changed. I still am very much on edge and the slightest thing can trigger a blowup. Sometimes I LB big time. I am trying hard not to. Recovery is very, very, very difficult. I went through alot. Our family suffered emotionally and financially. Sometimes we get into arguments because I am truly afraid of getting hurt again. I am truly afraid of putting my heart out there again. I take baby steps everyday.

The best thing is that he is doing everything right. She has been trying to contact him and he shows me the emails. He now refers to her as "that *****". Oh how that makes my heart grow. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> I am finally feeling that maybe I can be safe. We have work to do. Like he needs a new email address and other things. But in a sick way I like seeing her beg. That is where I am. Some days are better than others but I truly feel like he is coming around. And it is really nice when they start telling you that they can't believe where they were when they were thick in the fog. The lifting of the fog is truly a beautiful thing. Take care ya'll. I would not wish this situation on my worst ememy but it is surmountable. And it taught me and him that I AM ONE HELL OF A WOMAN!!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> Luv you all. wu

Oh and my advice to the newbies. Follow Dr. Harley's advice. It is almost like a script. He really knows his stuff. I liked "Love Must Be Tough" too simply because with my personality it was difficult to Plan A and not LB. But read everything and take care of yourselves. I know it seems like this is a very bad impossible nightmare but it is real and it is out there and it is not your friend. Knowledge is power. Bye

#419807 12/16/02 08:43 AM
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wu,

thank you for sharing your story with us. You really put up with a lot! What a nightmare it was!

You mentioned that because of your personality it was hard for you to do Plan A without LBing. That has been my problem. I am about to send the Plan B letter as Jennifer (MB) suggested and I want to make sure I adhere to it. But I feel like my Plan A was not strong enough so I fear that with Plan B our M will be really over. She has told me flat out "I do not want to be married to you even if I break up with OM."

My question to you is what made you go to Plan B? Am I understanding you right that your Plan A was not that strong because of LBs? Any other words of wisdom are appreciated.

Thanks and congratulations, you are one strong woman.

Be well.

#419808 12/16/02 12:36 PM
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Hi Utterlyconfused:

First of all I want to say Thank you. Secondly, there is nothing that you can believe when they are in the fog.

The main reason I went to Plan B was that I was truly beginning to hate my H. I just knew that it would be much easier to live without having to look at him and deal with his foolishness. I had two young girls and I needed to protect them. He had no thoughts of us at all and was so selfish that I was astounded and I just thought that I had to get this person out of my life.

I had really gotten to a point that I felt that H and OW deserved each other and I wanted them to go at it and eat each other alive. Like Harley says, Plan B is to preserve any love you have for the WS. That was true but I also needed desperately to preserve my self-respect. I was and have always known that I was the better woman but I started to feel that that man was not good enough and after 13 years of marriage and two children, I deserved better. And I will tell you it was not until I was truly done and I was begging my H to please leave and never come back, literally, that H woke up. When I let go and was done he woke up. Life is funny.

I wish you luck, it is a rough road but one that God has thrown in front of us for some reason. The task is not to let this time be a waste of life but one where you gain knowledge about yourself. You will get to know yourself in this mess more than ever before and you will be so much stronger. This is some kind of test. It is so hard to let go sometimes but we cannot control them and we must take care of ourselves. Take care. wu


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