Hi,

Just an FYI........ this type of posting periodically happens. An OW comes to MB to share her POV. Free country.......everyone is entitiled to their opinion.

Initially this had the potential of being an interesting discussion (even after the lies were cleared about who BO really was (BS or OW).

However understand that this type of OW will continue to share her POV (babble) as long as there is someone to share it with. Kinda like a WS. Now how many of you want to participate in enabling a OWs babble?

BO goes on a 'business trip' and still has some kick in her. OK, but look at who she is kicking?

You all decide what you want to do. I said my peace to her. Done deal.

Just want to let you know not to get to wrapped up on her comments. Very very typical OW.....with trapesings from ye 'ol GB site.

Just an observations. You should have been here last year. There was a slew of them over here. Some even attacked those on the pregnancy and child boards......imagine that! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> A couple of OWs ganged up and started posting to each other and heckling the other MB posters. The moderators had to step in.

Yep there are many of these stories but the MO is the same. This BO person is no different.

If she can't sell her side here, she will find another place to do so. It may be hard not to post to someone with such outlandish thoughts but remember this is still a free country so outlandish thoughts are not a crime but you can choose not to encourage it.

Enough soap box comments.....stepping down.

Ya' ll have a nice evening.

L.

Go Orchid!

You've hit the nail squarely on the head!

Thanks for clarifying the situation, especially for those who haven't able to see the whole picture.

We all need to spend wisely our precious time on this wonderful board...

Ammon

Hear, Hear!
I'm WS, and not particularly MB in my own life, but even I found her attitude offensive. Ignore her, maybe she'll go away.

I took me a while to get to my moderator e-mails.
It is now closed.

OneGoing.

Thank you Onegoing.

OneGoing, thank you for finally closing that obnoxious thread.

Fellow MB'ers - I elected not to post on the prior BO thread because I consider her to be dishonest (i.e. posing as a BS initially) and the type of person who will say or do anything that she feels like doing without regard to anyone else. Hence, she is the poster child for selfishness that is embodied in the OP mentality.

She is, frankly, not interested in Marriage Building, only interested in herself, and she is totally irrelevant. What she thinks, or has to say, is totally irrelevant. She acts, and has from her postings, always acted in her own selfish interest and will not, according to her, change. That is what happens to people who let the sinful evil in their hearts control their lives.

So, should she attempt to post anything else in any other thread, I intend to do what I did in her previous thread....totally ignore her. Yes, she is free to have her opinions and even free to post them, but I would encourage all my fellow marriage builders to simply ignore whatever she might say and resist the urge to reply. She can rant on her own. Her irrelevancy to life, and certainly to the sanctity of marriage, is not worth one second of my time, or hopefully, yours.

God bless each of you, FWS's and FBS's, who are working to forgive and rebuild your marriages despite the self-centered selfish destructiveness of the OP's.

<small>[ December 07, 2002, 10:10 AM: Message edited by: ForeverHers ]</small>

Thank OneGoing ... Go Orchid Go. I always carefully pick who I am going to post to ... when they are flaking (BO) or has very thin ear (Please Help Me) ... suit their right and move on to other posts that has 0 reply to them. There are plenty of hurt are going around on this board. Just lurking <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> -rh-

Thank U OneGoing.

For many our emotional needs are running quite high right now and stirring the pot with any OP justifying their way, is like adding fuel to the already raging the fire.

I appreciate how this board and it's moderators allow freedom of expression while tempering it with sound judgement. This is a good combination.

Please keep up the good work.

L.

To all of you........at Gloryb we don't discourage or are AFRAID to hear what BSs have to say....Most of them come there originally shooting their guns....we give them a chance...most BSs are in lala land as to what they believe actually happened in their husbands affaires, most husbands don't tell wives the truth even after affair is discovered...most bsS think it was a 3mth. or ONS....after SHARING with OW they start wondering and most find out that their husbands were actually in long term affaires lasting 2 or 3 yrs.! OW are so much more understanding than you BSs are....i guess your all just afraid of us....i am not expecting a response from you..i just think that you are all so silly for reacting this way ....goes to show you why some of your husbands like OW better..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Just had to toot your own horn about how much "nicer" you are BO and then completely lose your own "argument" by ending with a nice little jab at any BS's. tsk tsk.

BO - I lurk (never post) at gloryb - and yes - you are right - many OW are understanding but just as many are not. Believe me - I've seen some pretty childish stuff happen over there..and also pretty damn cruel.

Hope you found something of value in your posting at MB - you're always welcome -anyone's opinion is always welcome but remember this site is called "MarriageBuilders" and it always will be.

Take care.

<small>[ December 07, 2002, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Alberta ]</small>

Dear BO, My H likes OW better because she is submissive and a doormat. He can have her if thats the case, I have a better life to live.

Actually I would be interested to meet her, but as Orchid once pointed out, I swim with sharks, so OW poses no threat to me.

good luck with it all, you have much work to do on yourself. I hope God provides you with love and compassion in whatever way you need it.

Thank you for visiting the site. It is good for us to hear from people like you.

Alberta, just to set the record straight, I went and visited the GloryB site. Guess what? In true-to-form OP style they have a forum just for OW/OM and BS's are not allowed to post, or if they do they are told to go elsewhere. Very open and accomodating of divergent opinions, aren't they?

Just goes to prove that the OP's are in their own little selfindulgent twisted worlds. Desperately seeking to be needed by someone and so insecure that they can't find a single, unattached person. Must be because they know that the spouse of their married person was found "okay" by at least the MP's spouse and they don't have to risk sifting through the wierd single ones to find a "keeper" of their own.

Pity. That's about all that I can muster for them. They'll never have a stable loving marriage of their own when the best they can think of is someone who has proven their propensity to lie and cheat by being involved with them in the first place. Pity the poor OW/OM fool.

As I said earlier, proof positive that whatever an obnoxious OW/OM tries to post on MB is irrelevant and testifies to their own inability to think any higher thought than cystitis is painful.

Thank goodness that some spouses finally wake up and realize that the OW/OM are pitiable people and not someone to build a solid marriage with. Thank goodness that some BS's have enough love to forgive the idiocy that OW/OM induce in WS's by preying on them and lying to them about how "only the OP can understand them". Just wants to make you puke all over the OP so they can get a taste of reality.

"Name calling" whether directed to specific individuals or to groups (OP/MM/MW/BS/WS) is to be discouraged.

We all understand the need to vent, but when a thread goes to extremes (judgment calls need to be made at time) the thread will be closed.

If you want to understand one thing about this site, it is that it is all about Relationship Building. That includes the relationships of the members to each other.

Learn forgiveness.
Learn to improve self.
Learn to Plan A with everyone you can.

I will not close this thread, yet. But I do ask everyone posting to it to take a moment, stop, and think of 'the other' poster, and make their replies constructive, or consider not posting to this thread.

With affection to the many hurt individuals.

OneGoing.

I wonder why BO is "boiling over"? Could it be that she has been sh*gged and then dumped by one too many MM? Hmmm.

Perhaps, like the people who responded to her in good faith on this website, once you get to know her better, the ugliness comes oozing and then pouring out from under the rocks where it usually hides, and any man who made the mistake of getting close turns and runs a mile, and that includes both MM and single men.

But I would bet that single men, who are available for commitment, somehow don't light her fire. Only MM, who are unavailable, but have shown the capacity for commitment (at least at some point in their life), are attractive to her. Perhaps single men are not interested in BO, because their radar are more highly tuned to the sound of a shredding machine coming their way.

BO is ANGRY - angry at life for not giving her what she thinks she is entitled to. Somewhere in her past, BO didn't get what BO thinks she ought to have had, and probably BO is right. Most people with BO's kind of anger were given a raw deal in the love stakes early on in life. She is a damaged person in great pain, and unfortunately, going through her life inflicting as much damage as she can on everyone she comes into contact with, and that includes wrecking marriages.

The point is that not all people who may have suffered the kind of pain which is causing BO's level of anger go around deliberately destroying other lives. BO, if you are reading this, you need help - whatever it is that has happened in your life, you deserve to be loved.
(I am sure some BS would disagree with me, but I am someone who believes that every human being, no matter how flawed, deserves to be loved.) But you will never be a person able to receive or even recognize real love until you take responsibility for yourself and your own actions and stop blaming other people for your problems. Until then, you will just attract and be attracted to men who just want to use your body to shoot their **d and get lost. So the MM who use you are "scum"? so what? It's what YOU are that should matter most to you.

At this point in your life, who you are is apparent for anyone to see and it isn't pretty.

LIR

Amen Orchid! and others who posted about BO. She is really hurting and afraid for herself. After finding herself used, lied to and dumped. What the OW doesn't realize is this.If a couple are having some problems, and all do, then it isn't hard for any woman to tempt a man into bed. Any woman! She doesn't have to be special, pretty or anything other than a dummy. And it's usually not the sex that draws them. It's the way OW/OM who has not been hurt by them yet, will sit and listen to his,her whining. Without realizing he or she is building themselves up while tearing spouse down.What OP's see is not what you get! It's all a facade put on for you. There are a few books out there that have interviewed the WS's and the majority say the sex was never as good as it is at home with S! That's the facts.And for the OP's, if you think your affair partner is not tearing you to shreds to their S, think again. My WH initially thought his old HS Sweetheart was just the thing. A started on Internet,then phone, and they finally flew to be together in another state. He came back from her telling me what bad condition she is in. The fantasy was bursted. I got all the details about how bad her body was, her attitude and personality that were bad. See, it was easy when they were just talking to build up this fantasy about who they were. LOL But in reality, it was an ego shatter. The first thing he did after asking me to work out our problems and stay married was make reservations in the mtns. For a real wild weekend of love making. Guess she didn't take the edge off after all. LOL Because he was one happy man after that weekend alone with me. And telling me he must have lost his mind to even think she could compare to me. OP lie to themselves because it's the only way they can try to repair their self esteem. And if the OP are so fantastic, how come their marriages are so unsatisfying? The OW husband told me he was Free at last, Free at last, when he found out. He was grateful to be getting rid of her. But unfortunately, she had to beg him to forgive her because my H ended it immediately with my finding out. Even for those A's that have been ongoing for long time, why is it they end as soon as they're caught? If it's so great, how come WS's don't give up anything in the world to be with OP? Because they know for a fact the OP is not worth it. Sort of like the kid who begs for a toy this Christmas, then it's in the trash next year! I know I'm better than the OW. I have turned down multiple opportunites because I do not respect any person who comes on to a married person. And I know they will not respect me after it cools down. And with just the slightest hint in joking that I might just dress up and go looking, my H hangs onto me like superglue! Don't you find this funny and strange if they think the OP is so wonderful? If that were true, they'd shove the S out the door and pray that she/he find somebody new so they could go full time with OP. LOL We could all find a thrill with somebody new, but it's only cheapening oneself to do it. The OP would do well to study psychology. Even in the single dating world, people put on a false front. It takes months, and sometimes years, to see the real person.They only start to let down their guard, showing the true selves when they feel comfortable. And not very many feel comfortable in an A. Always looking over their shoulder. Why do WS's lie to their S to get out to see OP? Because they don't want to lose the S, but play around with OP. Duh! Wake up people. If you were the hottest thing going, they'd be shoving the S out the door and pulling you in and not care that S knew! They wouldn't be lying to cover their cheating.Everyone(Ow/OM) acts like the lying is doing them a favor. what kind of lines do they hand OP? And why? Examine it for yourself. The BS can hardly do anything if the S wants to leave for good. A few fights? WEll, WS can just move out. But they don't want to and that's why they lie and you think it's for you. LOL nough said? LouLou

hey folks! according to her closed thread, boiling over may not even be an other woman, but a student at college in montreal! she is here to cause trouble and find a cheap thrill. all of us who have posted to her are actually taking time away from those here who need our help! please, waste no more time on the children and maybe they'll go play on the swings leaving the grown ups to talk!