Hi 3!
Just wanted to check up and see how you are going after last night.....hmmmm......not what I had hoped for you. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />
I agree with Lost, it sounds like you need a new plan. I can understand, though, that you may not want to rock the boat. The thought of losing someone can be worse than putting up with their crap. There's been times when I considered Plan B but knew it would make me feel worse than trying to get plan A to work. It's a tough call but I wish I had made it. It takes courage and I reckon if I had found MB back then, I would have had the guts to do it. I'm not trying to tell you what to do - you need to figure it out but please do what your heart tells you to do. Don't crush your heart trying to do what's best for everyone else. Protect yourself even if it means being selfish.
Not sure I'm making sense....
Gotta go take someone to the airport.
Been thinking of you lots today.
sp

Hey - I was reading what u posted I know I sound like a wise guy BUT none of the above is good .

Awhile ago when I got on the baord and said , even about looking for job that was used againist me . anything PLANED by me he automaticly says I am doing to try and predict when OW will be a problem and need to see him .

Another words even when I ask him to come home lets say tonight on time so I can get my nails done , if she calls he will say someting like well I will be a minute and when I get back u can go ........... THEN the min. turned to hours and place was closed . He will aplogize and fight and say u only wanted to go so I wouldn't see her and so shee would fight with me .

I then get blamed for causing him to be agrvated by her <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

I can go out and he will watch the kids no problem ....But its like ok u can go sat. morning or sun. or if I get home on time no problem but no "steady nights "cause he says he don't no when she will act up . GET IT

I am HER prisiner and he says no I am .

All about him .

On another note I was READING EN section and some one posted A thread on EMOTIONAL ABUSERS Wow I keep reading it over and over . I think he fits it to the letter or as close to it as possible .

I'll be ok , I am a person who can endor alot before I act I anilize everything so much so that I feel 100% right with myself to make a decision . I am going to start to finally look into counsaling for ME . I am at the gym that was a start something to do FOR me .

I am reading the 180 over and over and will do that as well as Plan A , no Plan B just don't work if HE won't leave . My children and I can not be moved that is never or will never be an option .

And LOL when u said , " cake decorating calss" Should I learn to dress my "Cakeater Up" LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

He was told I want my marriage , I love him , but disrespect can only distance someone in time .

And maybr through all this I will only sheild my self and eventually shut him out . I no that Plan B is nesseray to preserve what love u have left so the disrespect is not in your face .

Lets face it in or out my mind will wander, Yes it is different I have been there before when I got him to leave the first time and it does help I would give that advice to anyone .

But now I took him back and he won't leave he also has seen the other side and now is different I know about her , he is scared of that .

I am also working on making him understand that I am ok if he leaves and I won't destroy his life . ( I might want to but won't ) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I know taking him back without him telling her he was coming home was the biggest mistake of my life , I set other bounderies and he eventually trashed those I belived and TRUSTED and well I should not have but no sense on u no <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" /> over spilt milk .

Right now I am observing him listening and trying to really no what he is going through if I zone in on that maybe I can gain control of how else to deal with this on his leavel.LONG SHOT

But at least I know I have a way out at last resort TELL THE $LUT ALL that is going on .

IT is like being president you can push the button , but are you shore you want it to end like that?

SP- did not see your post before I wrote to respond to LOST .

Tanks for thinking of me its nice to no <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

As u can see I explained I did plan B after I exposed A to Light (did not know about MB then ) But I was right on the money .

It worked and he begged me back <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
Saying all the right things and showing them .

I det bounderies ( at the time no MB ) and listened to his request and he moved back , communication great told all about A and answered questions .

I wish I found MB at that point , cause when he saw her a couple of times and broke bounderies he went back into FOG .
Tahts when I lost it control over my self all over again .

And did not find MB till 8 mons. after he was back .

now H is home 1 yr. and I do need to start this from scrach .

180 DB and plan A . I have to go one last effot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For all I am worth ,if I can even find myself through all this $hit when it is said and done .

Tahnk you again for talking the other night and for posting . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Awhile ago when I got on the baord and said , even about looking for job that was used againist me . anything PLANED by me he automaticly says I am doing to try and predict when OW will be a problem and need to see him .
Another words even when I ask him to come home lets say tonight on time so I can get my nails done , if she calls he will say someting like well I will be a minute and when I get back u can go ........... THEN the min. turned to hours and place was closed . He will aplogize and fight and say u only wanted to go so I wouldn't see her and so shee would fight with me .
I then get blamed for causing him to be agrvated by her
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Now this just p!$$e$ me off! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> Basically he is controlling you and ensuring that your life revolves around her as much as his does. This is totally bass ackwards! Your schedule should not have to revolve around her !

And I agree about the emotional abuse. And it will continue as long as you tolerate it. I know it seems that he is in total control over the M, but really, he's not. Talking to him does no good, actions will. If you want to get a job, get one! IMO it would be good for you. As long as you don't have problems with transportation, you can get a job. You'll have to arrange for childcare (seeing as H is so unreliable), but it can be done. YOU need to do some things for YOU, and if H doesn't like it, then it's just TS for him!

I realize that I am going off just a little bit. I just can't stand to see you in the situation you're in. It's terrible that your H is being....well, I've already said it enough, you know what I think about him! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> You CAN change your situation. Please don't wait until all your self-esteem and independence has been destroyed.

Ok, I'll shut up before I start going off again. Take care of yourself!

DOWN GIRL ,This is my thread and I don't want to have to calm you down . I was giving an example ,I am not getting a job YET <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

And another thing stop taking all the good nick names for my H away from me LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I am in pissed off mood so I get joking and $hit.

On another note PENI$ breath had phone off again and said, it wasn't ,what ever I should face the fact that HONESTY is not his strong suit <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

H is on one computer so I decided to go on the other not to sit hear watching him all night on netgammon .

He is playing a game with his brother so at least I know it is not $lut face ,no as far as I know the ho is not on line with him ever .

Although I have reson to belive he has another mail box that I am not suppose to know about .

He says he will make BIRTHDAY up to me ,ok I belive that considering we are on computers instead of cuddling . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
I will work through this , I know I will I will make it and will come out on top .

On top of who I don't know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> Well I know I need to just let things be .

OH want to laugh he is getting a NEW COMPANY PHONE and A NEW NUMBER ,raedy to LOL and hard

I was so happy ,said to him this is great that is what we hoped for from time he came home ,IF they are not togther and he raelly broke off then she can't get in touch with him anymore thats it N/C right ?

WRONG get this , he said well she can beep me and I will have to go to pay phones and call her , I said are you serious just ignore the beeps like you never got them and thats it no more, bye bye, problem solved .

He rolled his eyes and said , can you shut up about her and give me a reson to want to come home . Well excuse me if you had an affair and want to try to make a fool of me and I don't belive you .

NO I did not say that , I just did 180 said nothing .

He ask how was your day I said fine he went to go on pc so I said set the lap top up for me ,H said, I will only be a minute , ok so will I .

That was an hour ago . LoL he is still on . Got to love it .

Ok I am calmer now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Sounds like you are doing good as far as LBs go. BTW, meant to say the cake-decorating thing was not an intended pun--LOL. Also, if he has other e-mail accounts, you can find them and get into them as long as he doesn't clear the history every time he's online. Just a thought.

You and me on same wave length LOL

HE always clears HISTORY Everytime he goes off LOL

Still LB late last night ,but hey I am human and he is an ALIEN CHILD and it is fustrating getting through to children <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I think that I care attitude in me is going to start coming about .
But on a depressing note, a close meber of his family died yesteray ,(like an uncle) .
He was raised next door to them and his daughter our age .I am closer to his family then him .

I have the wake tonight he will be home with kids and go tomorrow night . I hate the no babysitter factor .

I want to speak to his cousin to let her know I am there for her , the death of a parent is hard ,all death is but I know what this one is like and you need to know someones there .

And he ordered my NEXTEL phone last night , so I can talk to him anytime not to waste his minutes on cell phone . He makes no sense . The radio is unlimted use . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

So talk later ,have a good day .

Am just posting to see if my profile came out !!

As I sit here reading an reading well You get the pictureLOL

I sit here thinking should I give up , not do anything just give in and give up .

No movement at all just be noemal do nothing no plan , just live one day at a time .

Do I belive him , or is there just to much discepensy in his stories ,and if so is he just hiding somethings to really eventually end this A .

Or has he become a calm , cool , calculated minipulator?

WOW this is what I am faced with , there is no talking about this issue with him (OW) he does not want to here it no matter how I approach it .

He says he is sorry and this is the hole trueth and I can't except what I asked for witch is the trueth .

I just read someones post and someone said to them , What if H is telling the trueth and your just not seeing that that is what it is nothing more happpened then what he said?

In my case is this real is he just doing all this to prtect himself his job . Or is he telling me that to continue his A while at home .

Does he love her ? Love me? love both? scared to death of what he did? Not telling me all and keeping me and her from one another because it is even worse then I can imagine ?

Is there a worse secret? I couldn't imagine one that my imagination did not think of yet.

1 when she calls he tells me
2 he tells me he sees her
3 tells me when he drives her some where
4 tells me when he lends her money

My point is why lie about being with her on the way home for one hour ? cause he can and not get court?
does he only tell me the stuff he can no longer get away with .IE- being with her for hours cause I have to know not to call , or beep him .

But if I think she knows he is home , what would he care or her for that matter if I called ?

Yes if she does not know he is home like he says then that makes sense .(as much sense as any of this makes )

Is this , could this all be a game to drive me crazy ? If so why? Why not leave and be happy ever after? just move the F on already?

I just think this should be esier for everyone .

1 have an A , confess or get court make decsion
Go home and try like HE!! to be forgiven and gain trust back N/C it was mistake .

2 get court or confess move the HE!! on D ,boom its done .

what is so hard at least in my case . I found out said , if you want to stay I will work through this and lets move on.

If you want a different life God Bless good luck lets be friends we have kids so make the best in D for them .

Whats the problem !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean my anger was only about finding out about A once I did I never begged or went for the $lut just wanted to know and move on .

Deal with my own pain when your gone don't need your pitty or want it .
Don't want his guilt or excuses , just want him to be happy , if she makes him happy and I can't then OK no sweat ,I think I can but thats not my decsion thats his heart no one can tell someone how to feel .

I accept that , so any thoughts on this this very sick thing .

Am I wrong , Should it not be that easy .

I just think if someone tells you they don't love you or desire you that way anymore then let it GO .

That is what I told him from very begining I don't need to know all if I know that ,that is enough for me .

It won't , can't , and will never change my love for him . That is my problem If I want to quitly love him if he leaves he can't change that so stcking around won't change that .

WOW I am rambling , someone jump in .

Sorry to hear about his uncle. Call the cousin--it is hell losing a parent. I lost my dad last year and had nobody to talk to about it.

OK now about your other post--

DO NOT try to understand your H while he's in the fog--you will fry your brain! LOL!

Seriously, I do think you need a plan, whatever plan that may be. I don't think it's a good idea to just go through things blindly, not planning ahead of time how to handle things.

I believe your H does still love you. I don't think he'd be there if he didn't want to. I think you need to choose whatever plan you think is best for you, and STICK TO IT. Give it a chance. Set a deadline for yourself--like I wil do so-and-so plan for 1 month (or however long) and then re-evaluate the situation. But you gotta stick with it!

As far as the computer thing, there is another option if you REALLY want to know what he's doing. Spyware. Even if he clears the history, you can see every site he went to, every single thing he typed.

Also, be there for your H now. I'm sure he needs comfort and support bc of the death of his uncle--be the one to give him that.

Take care.

You totally got to be sick of me by now , its apparent that everyone else is .LOL

Raelly bad day , FOR me TRIGGER to many .

Went to DMV license re- new , any way no money in pocket , street no parking cause of snow , so parking lot right ,WRONG NO MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Had to go all the way home and borrow , I was called him and was upset ,he said something inreference like well how dum you need money on you , I DON"T HAVE ANY A$$ HOLE , then I started its OK if $lut face don't have it cause you drive her and wait , no cab no money he said well cabs a exspensive <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> What about train don't have 2 dollars ( like parking lot ) NO SHE HAS YOU to take off work and showfer her around .

She don't need money she has my husband !!!!!!!!!!!! well he hung up .

I called back and she interupted our call <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />
He "accedently" hung up on ME <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> WOW does OW have timing , I went more nuts he tells me your wasting my minutes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> NOT OW ME , BU!! $hit ,

I told him I don't want to speak to him any more ,I hung up!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was at 10;30 Now he just called , from cell phone asked if dmv went ok I said, yes, your mail came, and tv repair is hear your on your cell save your minutes for you ho , KLICK

WTF enough I am filing next week , let them have eachother

H again on phone now saying I am snot

NOT POSTING ANYMORE

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> You totally got to be sick of me by now , its apparent that everyone else is .LOL </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Nope. Not by a long shot. Your H pi$$e$ me off tho.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> SHE HAS YOU to take off work and showfer her around .
She don't need money she has my husband !!!!!!!!!!!! </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Perfectly true statements, but big LB's, as I'm sure you already know.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> NOT POSTING ANYMORE </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And why not??

I know you're upset and highly frustrated, but days like to day are exactly why you need to have a plan and stick to it. Would you rather just go in circles fighting with H and when one of you is fed up just file for the D? Or would you rather know that you had a plan, stuck to it, and did everything in your power to save your marriage?

Btw, if you feel that it's truly over and you really want to D, then I don't think anyone would blame you.

<small>[ February 20, 2003, 02:58 PM: Message edited by: lostbuthopeful ]</small>

This is going to be a long one get comfortable <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

I told H yesterday he has 7 days to basicly $hit or get moving I will file for D .
I do not want to , I do love him very much and always will . I will feel as if I am dieing each day that we will not be together . I want my marriage my family together , But I want his LOVE and attentionand affection more then anything .
Another words if I can't have him the way I want I rather have nothing ,I want him to love me the way I say and think he should the way I fell in love with him nothing less only more !!!!!!!!!!!

I can not go on with ow in picture any more , its not about weather I belive he loves her, or if she knows he is home .
It is about my morals I am not a lier and never was I pride myself on that , and this is a lie to me , ow and watching him lie I can't help with that any more I can't be subjected into changing my one biggest belief that made me, ME .
Lieing is the worsed thing in the world to me I never saw any good in it , only harm now matter how small the lie .

I wanted so much to fight for my M I do mean fight like know one has fought before , but part of PLAN A that I guess is not working for me is the conflict on being the best me , I can't cause I am covering up a lie .

MY H is very immature always has been and selfiish always has been these things never shocked me I knew what I Married , and never set out to change him .

But after affair I thought he changed himself , I do belive he came out of FOG and also had a change in his ways of noticing everything about him that needed , well some growing up .

They were not words if was remorse and action .

TO me and infront of his children he came to me that night a mess crying and I mean crying for everything he was worth ( like watching someone have a nevese break down )
I remeber holding him ( would not let me go) and thinking oh my god I don't want this man to have this pain . H said I am a man without a home , I am loosing everything how could I have risked that , what a monster I became I didn't mean it it just escalated and I felt like after awhile I lost control and couldn't stop it , I want to stop my lies get my life back , my family ,how did I do this.
When I went to take my part in blame he said no I did this you always tried hard to communicate I shut down like always thinking thing will go away on there own sweaping them under the carpet .

He begged please give me another chance I see now that I am nothing without you and all my family and friends . I want my life back . All of it I will make this up to you I don't no how but I will do everything it takes anything , anything .

Please forgive me , ok there was even more but I want u to get the message .

I said , I forgiave him for the affair I already did that in my heart before he asked to come home .
Once I found out the trueth that I was not crazy and he was really having one .

I did not forgive the lies , and told him you can never MAKE this up to ME the damage was done BUT ........... We can move on from hear , you can never see this women again ,can not be friends with her .
HEARS where we get going .............

He said , there will be some calls from her cause she will be mad and come at me and I do not want to tell her I am coming home . ( that is the screw up I messed up right there) I will tell her it is over and don't love her and will eventually ignore her calls . I agreed he said in time he bumped into her he would say he is home . But not in beging .

OK he moved back in after I made clear to him that there were changes on my part and I know what I want and what I will no longer tolerate in M anymore . ( won't get into all detales)

If he didn't like it don't come home and if he had any feelings left for ow stay out all I want is for him to be a happy person . I would be friends with him and even OW if they would be part of my kids life . I would help with kids acsepting her and would show them I was ok with her ,D will go smooth and I will not ask for anything to hurt him . I told him all of this for 2 weeks before he accually moved back in ,I even said maybe after he leaves ow he should stay out to be sure .

He said he was and did not want anything else but to come home to me .

OK with all that HOW IN GODS NAME DID I GET HERE And a year late no less .
I must have done a great plan B with out knowing it at the time with a good plan A (not no MB at the time) HE came home A exposed to day light and boom I was .

It was going good , he talked about it comforted me ,secured me , he saw my anger and heard it and was loving in response .

OK 5or 6 mons into it Ow keeps coming on stronger and stronger . He never stoped full contact he igrored her in the beging ,she refused and wanted to be heard showed up at job and called and beeped he gave in saying it was over .
BUT then things started getting out of control and he was treating me great meeting need me his and I kept giving in and he kept saying it will be ok (sweaping carpet again I didn't see it) Sttling into his old ways "conflicted AVOIDER"

Now she is just there and he sees nothing wrong in it except that I won't ignore it .

FOG again I don't know or is this ow the one .

AND why won't he say it why ? I have to put this to a close even though I know in my heart , gut ,body ,mind and soul I want him and my M .
I just am clueless , I am starting to feel that my willingness to want him is the very thing he fears. He always needed for someone else to make his decision (ME) for him .

It was the very thing I was avoiding but I think
he got to me broke me down he can do that , putting all the blame on me , playing the poor me the victim .
Well fine if this was a game then I have to forfit . I want to do horriable undiscriable things to this ow .NOT THAT I WILL ) but I realize I hate her exsistense for possiable being everything I am not for him .

so wahts the matter with me , I was even thinking of giving them custudy of kids if that is what he was playing for all along .

All I know is I want prince charming and I am sick of the green frog with worts .

I want to post the card he gave me so maybe someone out there can understand my confustion of what he says verses what he does .

v-day

MY WIFE, MY ONE AND ONLY VALENTINE
IN MY HEART I WONDER WHY IT SO OFTENSEEMS TO BE I CAN NEVER SAY THE THINGS THAT REALLY MEAN THE MOST TO ME .

I WONDER WHY IT SEEMS THAT WHEN I FIND THE WORDS AT LAST, THE PERFECT TIME FOR SAYING THEM TO YOU HAS LONG SINCE PASSED ......

I WINDER HOW TO TELL YOU ALL YOU'VE BROUGHT INTO MY LIFE -
THE DAILY JOY OF HAVING YOU BESIDE ME AS MY WIFE .
I WONDER- AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN READ MY HEART , MY MIND, AND SEE THE LOVE, THE FEELINGS FOR THE WORDS I CANNOT FIND .

YOU ARE SO BEAUTIFUL TO ME .

That reading his mind and heart well that is what I always did and he new it I always new how he felt and new when he wasn't acting the right way he always loved me .

He would eventually break down and tell me things like sorry I have been so $hitty to you ,you know your my life I Love You . I could see it in his eyes I understood him like no one else .

Now he wants me to see it and I don't know if I am blinde by anger or am I seeing him for him a lier my hole M was it a lie ?

3...just wanted you to know that I always read! I'm here! My prayers are with you and your family.

Hi thank you for reading , and for having me in your prays its comforting .

And yes I know you will respond once I kick the SOB to the curb or H gives that N/C .

Have a great day thanks again for the prays ,and throw in a candle <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

((((((((3)))))))

Wel, you went and did it. I don't blame you a bit--you deserve way more than you've been geting. I hope you are prepared to fully carry out your ultimatum should he keep his butt on the fence. Be strong, girl! You will be okay. And don't make any quick decisions about the custody. I really really hope your H opens his eyes. Take care and keep us posted!

You have put up with more than even I did, I don't know how you have done it.

I didn't have many boundaries, and I see myself in you. Please try to find some boundaries. IMHO.

Have read your posts and don't know how you have put up with so much.

My prayers are all for you now

IMHO plan B B B!!!!

Don't post much, but have much empathy for you. Don't know how you have done it.

You are good, a really good gal. You deserve the best.

Thanks for listening.
Love in Christ

Miss M

Went to far that saying I would give him kids ,NO NEVER happen .

LOST- thanks for hugs .

MM - Thanks for prays .
I stated another post in general questions to see feed back on how many still have OW in there life and to see what there WS give them reson for it.

I know all situations differ , but I am in need to understand other BS < WS .
I sometimes can see clearer through other peoples posts .

I have started to learn that it seems that there is alot of guilt from WS to OP .
I don't understand that I mean I know in some cases they promised them commitment , but it is to the WWOR WH that the true commitment was broken .

I am not making excuses for H at all , just trying to find understanding and praying that what he says may have some valed reason to it .

I know I can not go on forever like this and it feels as if it is forever and will be forever .

I do know that D is what I should be doing , I am not scared but I don't feel it in my heart yet and thats always my confustion feeling it in my GUT you know?

I just wish OW was out of picture so I could be sure that our problems are about us and not her .

I mean one day sweet next day so far away I think hr is on the other side of the world .

When he sees her sometimes he will pay no attention to me at all , That I would think should be different . You would think if he meant sorry he would shower me with attention .

Well last night sat hear and watched him on computer and fell asleep .
when I went up to bed there was a text mess. on my phone

IT SAID, You don't know something that I do -
next page..........I LOVE YOU AND ALWAYS WILL LOVE H >

OK I don't get him why not just get your a$$ off pc and through me on floor and you no have his way with me <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> This man , boy ,[censored] ,D1ck head (lost no u like that) Why WHY WHY WHY ?

I hate this word . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> OK gotto go to sleeep ,the days are counting down tomorrow is 5 days left for H to decide ME ,HER, D ,OR LEAVE.

He is going to say you honey I made that decision ,BUT>>>>>>>>>>>she will go away on her own .

And I got one better he is being faced with this and FRI> she asked him to see her this weekend sometime to get cloths out of storage for her .
Sat. and no call I bet SUN sings a big ring on the phone and he goes .

Taht is why he has not come near me today , he always does oppisite of what I think he should do .

Only thing I know to tell you now is stick to your guns. Sounds like he may be coming around, but don't let him con you into settling for less than what you asked for.

What happened today? Did he go w/ her to get stuff out of storage?