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I thought I had a grip on things (My story is under the Subject "Cricket")
I hadn't really been in contact w/the OM and I felt STRONG! But, last night, he came over because he said I was the only one he wanted to spend the last night of his freedom with. (His sentencing was supposed to be 2-day and he was prepared to start serving his 12 months 2-day)He told me he was going to call me as soon as they allowed him to call OR since there was a chance of the judge not sentencing him today, he'd call as soon as he got out of court.
He still hasn't called but I found out thru other sources that he didn't go to jail today and his sentencing is now set for 2/20!
Why did I give in and fall for it again? Yesterday I was strong and was trying to write the NC letter. But then last night I was a completely different person and I didn't even recognize myself.
( ~ I know you're wondering....my H is out of town. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> )
When I'm with him, I have confidence and feel young and want to live a "life-on-the-edge' life. But, when I'm not with him, its like I come out of a trance or something and realize what's right and what's wrong. I am so aware of what my losses would be and that a life with the OM holds NOTHING but trouble. but I'm also not sure I want to be in this marriage because it feels like nothing about it will ever change. I am SO confused and I don't know what to do.
I'll be completely honest, ok? I am not sure if I want to end the relationship w/the OM. I want to want to end it, if that makes sense, because I know its the RIGHT thing to do. But, why, after being a Christian for 18 years, would I ever want to be involved in anything like this?
I feel sick. I know I should completely cut out all contact with him, but when he calls, I cave. I can't do this on my own, but I can't say I want to end it, either.
Am I weird? Could there be some serious mental problems I'm having? I truly feel like I have a split personality.
Can anyone relate to this at all?

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Cricket...I doubt seriously that you have a mental illness. What you have is what is normally termed here on this site as "fog".

jmho...fog is when you're incapable of thinking with a clear mind as to what is the best course for you to take. It's a state of confusion. It's a state of childlike wants/desires without thought to the results, until later. It's wanting the here and now, without being able/willing to look to the future to see if what you want is also what you need for a healthy life.

It's like looking at that candy bar right next to a wonderful four course meal when you know that if you eat the candy bar, you'll gain 10# right before the prom; and knowing that the four course meal has all of your very favorite foods...yet you still pick up that candy bar thinking you can eat it first...then sit down to your dinner of good food.

You're thinking...I can get by with it this once. I won't gain 10#,...it's what I WANT right now...I won't have to deal with the results of snatching what I want...I can handle this...I'll be ok...I do want it, I deserve it, I am going to have it!!!!

If no one but you knows you ate that candy bar...Then after you've had the candy bar...comes the guilt...and the 10#! Then, it's why did I do this? I know better! I shouldn't have done it! What's wrong with me?

If mom discovers you ate the candy bar...Then you don't understand why you must suffer the results by dealing with another's pain/issues...."Why did mom throw my dinner in the trash? I WANTED it! Why is everyone mad at me, I only ate a candy bar? Why can't I have what I want when I want it, regardless of what someone else thinks about it? I'm so bad! I hurt mom's feelings, I didn't pick her dinner over a lousy candy bar which made me gain 10#! Woe is me!

Harshness coming up! Beware!

You've put yourself in a very bad position. Yes, I understand that your marriage was having problems before this OM ever came into the picture, but you didn't solve even one of those problems when you began this affair, you only created new ones on top of the old ones.

From what little I've read on your two threads here...I can't see the attraction to this man, no matter how kind he might be. He took advantage of a couple who offered him help when he was down, by entering into an affair with the W. He didn't straighten up his act, he ended up with a prison sentence hanging over his head for DUI, so I must assume he drinks heavily and doesn't have the good sense to stay off the roads and stop being a danger to others as well as himself. If he's going to jail for a year, it isn't his first DUI, so he doesn't learn well from past mistakes. Do you?

Sorry, harsh I know...but this OM has "loser" written all over him. jmho

I don't know if your marriage should be saved. I don't know what qualities your H has or what he wants to do in the marriage. I do know that he didn't deserved being betrayed by his W and a man he opened his home to in an effort to help and support someone in need.

It's past time for you to make a decision as to where you want your life to go. If you want to spend the next year visitng OM in jail...then that's your choice and I hope you find happiness. If you want to try and rebuild your marriage...NEVER see or talk to this man again. What happens in his life should be no concern of yours.

I've been brutal, harsh, and honest in my humble opinion in an attempt to shed some light on what is happening. You of course know much more about your situation then I do, but from what you've posted, this is how I see things.

May you find healing on whatever path you travel.

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Cricket65 you are addicted to OM as much as OM is addicted to alcohol (a drug). Dr Harley has stated that many WS exhibit the same characteristics as a drug addict (he ought to know since he ran a drug rehab clinic). And like all drug addicts, you need to stay away from your drug of choice (OM) by exercising no contact.

Since you already confessed to your H about your A with OM, consider asking him about possibly changing your home phone and/or cell phone numbers, so that OM won't be able to call you. If you have an anwering machine, consider using it to screen out OM's calls. These two things will help you greatly with keeping the no contact rule enforceable.

Seek out a marriage oriented counselor and go (even if your H refuses to do so). Don't lose hope because others like you have not only survived their A's but have managed to rebuild their marriages as well.

You are not alone. Keep us posted.

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"Faithful are the wounds of a friend" ~ Proverbs ?:?
I know why I posted about my A and my feelings of not wanting it to end....because I know I need to hear things, yes especially HARSH things, that will encourage me to see things the way they really are.
I can't believe how differently things seem when I am even just in the OM's presence just even over the phone! I haven't heard from or spoken to him since yesterday morning. And I feel stronger and the little bit of distance has helped me feel like I've gotten a step or two away from the A. But please pray for me if my phone rings and its him! Pray for strength not to ever answer the phone when its him again. That's when I lose any ground I've recovered, no matter how little it was.
Thanks so much for the encouragement and support.

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Hon...think it's time to change your phone number. This way it helps you keep that distance you need to see things clearly.

I've been in an unhealthy marriage before, so I know how hard they are to get out of...but once out...you look back and wonder why it took so long to "wake up". It's not about rather you really care or not about the person you're sharing the unhealty relationship with, it's about what it is doing to YOU! And while you are in it, it's hard to see just how unhealthy it is, you make excuses for their behavior AND for yours...when if it's healthy, excuses are not really needed at all. jmho

Good Luck!

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Well, tonight I changed my cell phone #!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Yea 4 Cricket! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
I found out that he & his CLW went away 4 the wknd. This was just 24 hrs after he was telling me how much he loved me & I was the only thing that mattered & yadda. He hasn't even tried to call to let me know he didn't go to jail yet because the judge moved the hearing to the 20th.
But whatever, cuz my cell # is changed now & if he calls my home I plan on NOT answering.

I do have a concern about my H. I was very honest when he came home tonight from being out of town & I told him that OM had called me Wed. night from a bar & was very intoxicated & asked if I'd come pick him up. (That's how he ended up coming over.) Now, you have to understand that this had been a pattern of his ever since he moved in our house. And its even occured 3-4 times since he moved out. My H never had a problem with me going & getting him from bars & such B4, but what shocked me was that it really didn't seem to bother my H NOW! When I told him about OM calling me Wed. & that I went & picked him up and brought him here to crash WHILE HE, MY H, WAS OUT OF TOWN..... the only thing he asked was, "What room did he crash in?" I couldn't believe his response! I have spent hours worrying & sweating over telling him this because it was coming right on the heels of my confession of an A with this man! I want to keep being honest.
Since the other night when I confessed everything, we really haven't had a chance to discuss anything like what to do now or anything because my H has been out of town. Tonight, I asked my H if he wanted to talk about this issue (the A) & he said, "Well, there's really not much to talk about, is there?" He wasn't being sarcastic or hateful or anything. He truly thinks there is nothing further to discuss. I don't get it. I just told my H that I have feelings for our friend (the OM) & that we were mutually attracted to each other & now on top of everything, he came here and crashed while H was out of town. And he can't think of anything more we need to discuss.
It's not like he's mad or brooding or anything. He was very affectionate towards me tonight & wanting to touch me & kiss me & snuggle on the couch & all of that.
I am really confused as to what to think. He is such a conflict avoider. I told him the other night after I confessed that I didn't want this swept under the rug & forgotten about. I wanted & needed help with this issue. If he's not willing to talk about it all, what am I suppose to do? MAKE him talk about it when he doesn't want to? What?
I've been to a MC & my H doesn't want me or either of us to go because it would be $50/week that we just can't afford right now.
So....What do I do now?
Thanx for listening!

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Cricket...I really can't give you any advice on how your H is processing this. It's outside my experience. Just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you and praying that the two of you can get your marriage to be the loving, healthier one it can be.

It is possible that H just doesn't want to deal any longer with the affair stuff...is he at all willing to work on the other issues in the marriage which you feel are needing work?

edit to add...Congrats on the cell phone! Way to go!

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Cricket it MAY be that your H has not yet felt the emotional impact of the A (denial) and it's only a matter of time before he experiences it. Nobody wants to beleive that his/her spouse could be capable of betraying him/her this way. Remember that everybody is different and will have different reactions to a major revelation like an A.

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Well, it's finally hitting him now. We are going through the MB material and as we were discussing the Emotional Needs Questionnaire he released some feelings that have been pent up since the night I confessed.
It is sickening to see how much I've hurt a man I love SO much! I want to respond to him with tenderness & protection and help in the right way. I've told him I'd do anything he needed or wants me to do.
I offered to find some material from the MB website for him that might help him deal with this a little easier & he wants me to do that for him. Do you have any suggestions of what articles or posts that might help him?
I feel like such a morally defecient fool!

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Cricket here's a post from a BH with the user name of BrokenButNotCrushed and it is truly amazing. I hope it helps both you and your H.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong>"Two months ago, my wife put her arms around me as I lay in bed
and suddenly said, &#8220;There&#8217;s something I need to tell you. I&#8217;ve
been unfaithful to you.&#8221; With those words, I began my descent
into emotional hell. This is the story of how I survived the
torment of my wife&#8217;s betrayal, and how our relationship went
from &#8216;broken&#8217; to &#8216;better than ever&#8217; in just two months. If you have
had your world suddenly shattered by the infidelity of the one
you trusted most, and are wondering how you can ever make it
through, then this story is for you...
How it started.
My wife and I had been married twelve years when the thoughts
first started. Like any relationship, we had gone through good
times and bad. Surprisingly, this was one of the better periods.
My wife was in her mid 30's, and was finally attaining her
professional goals. We had a beautiful home, lots of friends and
were active in church leadership. We even offered counseling to
couples whose marriages were in trouble, using Dr. Harley&#8217;s
book, His Needs, Her Needs. I had no clue what was about to
happen in my own marriage...
For six months, my wife had thoughts about kissing a man whom
she saw often at work. He was unhappy in his marriage, and
gave off sexual vibes. He greatly admired my wife, and was
always building her up in one way or another. As a committed
Christian, she was horrified by these thoughts and tried to put
them out of her mind, but since she saw him at work frequently,
the thoughts kept returning. After awhile, she stopped fighting
them, since &#8216;nothing could ever happen.&#8217; Her first mistake was in
not realizing that she had a problem, and that she needed to
either tell me or confide in a friend to defuse the secret allure of
the thoughts.
Partially out of ignorance, she eventually did the worst thing
possible. She told him that she was having romantic thoughts
about him, but that nothing could ever come of it. He was
surprised, but very interested. For the next half-year they had an
emotional affair. Again, she could have broken much of the allure
by telling someone or seeing a counselor, but by this time, the
sin had worked its way in deep. What happened next was almost
inevitable.
The affair.
After a year of holding back, the sexual tension was enormous.
Their first time together, all they did was kiss, but the physical
sensations were like nothing she had ever experienced in her life.
They both quickly concluded that what they had must be that
one-in-a-million type of chemistry. Neither one understood that
illicit sex brings with it an unbelievable high. Put another way,
the devil reserves his best rewards to lure people into the worst
sins.
But, after the incredible high came the remorse. After just two
times together, my wife broke it off. She couldn&#8217;t live with the
guilt of what she was doing, and she genuinely feared God
because she knew how much she was grieving the Holy Spirit.
She was about to learn what it means to be a &#8216;slave to sin.&#8217;
Affairs become a type of addiction. My wife struggled with all her
strength, but having given into the sin, she discovered it was not
about to release its grip. After a month of emotional agony, she
resumed the affair. They fell deeply in love and he offered to
leave his wife for her. Predictably, our marriage began to really
suffer during this time, as she magnified each of my faults to
justify what she was doing. After three months of this misery, we
talked about separating.
Because of our Christianity, we were both strongly opposed to
divorce. She still felt a love for me and wanted to stay married;
she wanted to have the advantages of both our marriage and the
affair. We agreed to go to marriage counseling, and to work on
making our marriage better.
After half-a-year of hard work, my wife was again &#8216;in love&#8217; with
me. Though she tried again and again to break off the affair, she
could not do so successfully. The physical affair would last two
and a half years, and, incredibly, I never even suspected.
How it ended.
After three years of living a lie, my wife was at the end of her
rope. She suffered from chronic headaches, stomach upset and
other maladies brought on by the unrelenting stress of
maintaining the deception. She coped by taking literally
thousands of pills during this period of time. She had tried to
stop the affair more than a dozen times, and had even told our
marriage counselor, but sooner or later her resolve would
weaken. She felt trapped in her sin and saw no way out.
When our vacation plans with another couple changed at the last
minute, my wife went away to the ocean for four days before I
joined her. Alone with God, she begged Him to free her of the
addiction. He responded by lifting the scales from her eyes, and
for the first time in years, she saw &#8216;me&#8217; clearly. She also saw how
incredibly selfish a person she had allowed herself to become.
When I joined her, she practically leapt into my arms and told me
how God had given her a fresh and beautiful love for me. She
knew the affair was over, and this time, it really was.
To tell or not to tell?
As a result of that revelation, my wife made the decision to focus
on becoming a better person, and especially, a better wife. Over
the next three years, I saw her make changes that produced
increasingly positive results in our marriage. For the first time in
a long while, I was happy with our relationship.
My wife spoke with two Christian counselors about whether to tell
me. Both knew me well, and strongly advised her never to tell,
fearing that I would divorce her if I knew. She reconciled herself
to carrying her terrible secret &#8216;to the grave.&#8217; But the closer we
got, the more stress it caused her to keep up the deception. Also,
she never stopped loving the other man; she just made, with
God&#8217;s help, a solemn vow to never act on those feelings again. At
first she wanted to keep up a friendship with him, but over time
she realized the danger and finally cut off contact entirely.
While my wife had accepted that she would live with, and
perhaps even die from, the symptoms caused by the stress of
maintaining the deception, there was another price tag which she
had not anticipated. She found it impossible to accept my
praises! Whenever I would tell her how wonderful she was, or
how much I loved her, she would always think: &#8220;That&#8217;s because
he doesn&#8217;t know about the affair. If he knew what I have done,
he wouldn&#8217;t feel that way.&#8221; She came to see that the affair, even
though over, would steal the joy from our marriage for as long as
she kept it hidden from me.
The Confession.
The evening she told me, my wife suddenly knew in her spirit
that the time had come. As much as she dreaded what I might
do, there was no doubt in her mind: God&#8217;s will was that she tell
me that evening. At first, she didn&#8217;t offer details. She was hoping
that I wouldn&#8217;t ask. And initially, I didn&#8217;t. I assumed it was a one
night stand type of situation, and I immediately forgave her. But
over the course of the next 24 hours, I could think of little else.
Certain things she said didn&#8217;t fit in with what I initially thought.
And so over the next several weeks, I endured the horror of
learning piece by piece the full magnitude of my wife&#8217;s betrayal.
My reaction.
Shock. Absolute, total shock. This can&#8217;t be happening to me! My
wife would never do something like this! And on, and on, and on.
Somehow, I managed to ask myself the right initial question, on
which everything else would depend: &#8220;After nearly twenty years
of marriage, knowing what I now know about my wife, do I want
to work on rebuilding my marriage, or do I want a divorce.?&#8221;
Because my wife had changed so much over the three years since
she broke off the affair, the answer was easy to arrive at, but
painful to work out. I wanted my marriage!
The day I arrived at that conclusion, I took off early from work
and stopped at a florist to buy my wife a dozen roses. I cried all
the way home. I presented her the flowers and said, &#8220;Our past
may lie in ashes, but we still have the future.&#8221; She looked at me
in disbelief and said, &#8220;How can you give me flowers after what I
did to you?&#8221; I told her to remember that moment, because it was
a true picture of grace - the betrayed giving flowers to the
betrayer. We held each other and wept for a long time.
Dealing with the pain.
Knowing that I wanted to make it work was the first step.
Learning how to live with the pain was another matter entirely. I
never knew I could hurt so much inside. With each new
revelation of some aspect of the betrayal, it was as if the scab on
my emotional wound would be torn off and I would relive the
whole experience all over again. I knew it was hard for her to see
me in agony, knowing that she had caused it, but it was vital to
my recovery that I be able to trust what she was now telling me.
So each time she gave me a truthful answer to my questions, I
would say, through my sobbing, &#8220;Thank you for telling me the
truth.&#8221;
Integrating what my wife was telling me into my memories of the
past six and a half years was the most difficult thing I have ever
had to do. Nothing in my life was as it seemed. It was so much
more like a nightmare than it was like real life. Many times I felt
that it was all a terrible dream, and that I would soon wake up
and my life would go back to the way it was before. It was as if I
were a stranger in my own life!
I soon discovered the terrible roller coaster ride of recovery. One
day, I would be able to function reasonably well, and be in decent
spirits, all things considered. The next, I would be an emotional
wreck, crying my heart out. To my surprise, the pain did not
grow less with time, it increased with each new episode. As the
level of pain approached my breaking point, it drove me to
behaviors totally outside my character. I screamed profanities at
my wife, something I have never done before. At one point, I felt
such a rage building that I had to break something, so I
destroyed a gift he had given her by pounding it into splinters
with a hammer.
God&#8217;s grace to my wife during this time was nothing short of
unbelievable. Not only did she hang in there without being
defensive during the worst of my outbursts, she did it all without
any symptoms of stress! One episode, where my impotent fury
was so great that I felt I had to leave (I didn&#8217;t have anywhere to
go, I just felt a desperate need to run), she let me know that she
didn&#8217;t want me to go out, but she wouldn&#8217;t try to stop me. She
called out to me as I was about to leave: &#8220;You don&#8217;t have to go!&#8221;
Her calmness was so soothing that I found the strength to resist
the impulse to run. She also spoke the truth to me based on
God&#8217;s word during the many occasions when I hovered over the
black pit of depression. Time and time again she pulled me back
from wallowing in destructive emotions.
The Other Man.
Upon learning of the affair, I searched the net and read
everything I could on the subject. After reading one especially
relevant article on what affairs are like, I called my wife over to
the computer and asked her to read it. Her jaw dropped. The
article described what she had experienced &#8216;to a T.&#8217; At last she
understood that what she had with him was not something
&#8216;special&#8217;, but rather, the stereotypical experience of someone
cheating on their spouse. Once this last deception was exposed,
she no longer had to hide away her feelings for him, because she
understood that what she experienced wasn&#8217;t true love at all, just
a fantasy based on deceptions. In truth, it wasn&#8217;t him she loved,
it was the idea of being in love with a soul mate who truly
understood her.

I chose to confront the other man by telephone, with her on the
line. I wrote out ahead of time what I would say, since I couldn&#8217;t
trust myself to think clearly once the conversation started. I told
him that I knew everything, and that I had considered every
possible response to what he had done. I then said that while he
deserved retribution, I had chosen instead to forgive him, and
that I would never do anything to harm him personally or
professionally. He had become a Christian not long before, and I
told him I hoped that through my actions, he might better learn
what God&#8217;s grace is. He seemed deeply moved, and agreed to
never contact us again.
Sex.
Until I made the initial decision to stay with my wife, I wouldn&#8217;t
let her touch me. Even once I made the decision, there was an
overwhelming impulse to punish her actions by not having sexual
contact. I realized, though, that this was like cutting off my nose
to spite my face. So, even as I cried, I allowed her to make love
to me. It was a beautiful emotional experience. Afterward, she
shared that to her it meant I was taking her back as my wife in
the fullest sense.
Sex has become the greatest source of pleasure and of pain in
my life. The frequency of our lovemaking greatly increased
initially, since there was little else in life that brought me any
true pleasure. Unfortunately, sex is also a terrible trigger of
almost unbearable images. Sooner or later, though, I need to
deal with those images, so I decided, "Why put it off?" I can&#8217;t
change the past, but as I create more and more positive sexual
experiences with my wife, the negative associations will gradually
lessen in frequency and intensity.

Our relationship.
Incredibly, my relationship with my wife is now the closest it has
ever been. She has been my helpmate through the most horrible
ordeal of my life. She has shown true repentance and remorse,
and made major changes in those areas that caused problems in
the past. For the first time since early in our marriage, she has
been a true &#8216;giver&#8217; in our relationship.
Although it seems strange to me considering what has happened,
I cannot help but want to give in return! Without her asking, I
have made changes in those areas that I know were always sore
spots for her in the marriage. Because we survived the incredible
trauma of the affair by leaning on each other, I honestly believe
that we are closer today that we would have been if the affair
had never happened.
Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I would give almost anything to turn back
the hands of time and prevent my wife from doing what she did. I
still have good days and bad, though the bad ones are a lot less
severe than they used to be. I know there will painful times to
come, but I can face them with the confidence that my wife and I
will handle whatever comes our way together, as a team, with
God&#8217;s help.
The moral of the story.
My marriage is living proof that surviving an affair can make you
better, not bitter. Please understand, I am not passing judgment
on anyone whose experiences are different than my own. I was
very fortunate in many ways, and I thank God that my recovery
time has been so short, due to His mercy. I want to share our
story so that all those involved with or even contemplating
adultery can learn from our failures and successes.
Through my suffering these past two months, God has revealed
many truths to me about how to prevent adultery and how to
deal with the pain if it happens. Many times, I felt that the pain
was &#8216;more than I could bear.&#8217; Each such time, He revealed some
truth to me that enabled me to make it through. One day soon, I
will share what He showed me in another post.
He loves you.
BrokenButNotCrushed

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Thank you so much CoffeeMan~
I will give this to him. I've printed out several of the articles on infidelity and this letter from "Broken" will be a good "Introduction" page.
I will give this all to him with "no expectations".

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Sorry for hijacking your thread cricket. I just wanted to say thank you to TMCM for putting that post up. That was incredible, and very helpful.

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I copied that post from "Crushed" for my H and I thought you'd like to know how he responded. He had written a letter to give to me on Valentine's Day. But reading your post motivated him to give the letter to me tonight. Here is that letter he wrote: (with his permission)

"This is a letter for Valentine's Day, but of a different sort.....
This is a difficult time. I know you said you have little interest in Cupid's Day this year and I believe that. I've been sturgling with how to acknowledge it given the current circumstances. I know we have a lot to work through and it will take a lot of time, a lot of sharing, a lot of praying, and a lot of God's grace to heal the wounds. It's so difficult to even begin to understand all the complexities of the issues we face and will face, that sometimes I lose heart and think, 'What's the use?' But what we have is worth whatever lies ahead. I believe you feel the same way.
I guess that is the point of this letter. I want you to be sure that I'm convinced our union is of the highest value. I know we're extremely different and have huge gaps in our personalities and desires. But that must be part of God's plan to complete us, if we let Him.
Am I struggling? Yes. Am I angry? Sometimes. Am I confused? Very.
But I know that I do not want to go through this life without you as my wife. And I want you know that.
I do not wish you a happy Valentine's Day. That seems lame and shallow. I do pray that you have a good day and that when you recieve this short letter, it will make your day a better one.

I truly love you."

Afterwards, we discussed his letter and the post from "Crushed". We are both scared of what these next few weeks hold. But, he told me that it was after reading that post that he realized how much he appreciated my honesty.
It has been such a blessing to be able to have a place to share these difficult trials. Thank you for taking time to share what you thought would help. You've helped change my attitude towards my husband because my husband's words to me were reinforced and supported by what you shared with him. This will probably be the best Valentine's Day ever. Thank you very much!

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Good Luck as the two of you began walking your healing path together! You can succeed!

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Cricket.

God bless you and yours.

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Cricket, that's a lovely letter, take it, keep it with you and cherish it. It's how I feel about my WW so you hold onto it and move forward <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

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You know,,,,I get so much out of this forum,I get understanding from people who KNOW,,,I get companionship, support when I'm down, encouragement when I need it,,,people share my joys, however small or large, as I find more and more happiness in my marriage,,,and I get hope,,,,I even get a kick in the @$$ when I need it,,,and every now and then, I read something that touches me to such a degree that I am even more motivated to have not an ok marriage,,not even a good marriage,,,,but an INCREDIBLE marriage,,,,,ty so much CM for posting that,,,it was truly that for me,,,,,Holly


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