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#422349 02/14/03 05:00 PM
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Found out 12/17/02. WH was drunk and had one night stand 11/01 OC born 8/01. I drove OW to work for six mths because WH thought she was a good girl. She admitted to being bar trash as a new unknowledgable Christian I "befriended" her. OW single no kids at time I shared a girl's name that WH & I picked out as a new couple. She used the name. Congratulations to the both of them was posted publicly in local post office 9/01 both lied. Then she told me. I discovered after marriage he is dishonest and completely attached to his Dad. We argued with his family and his Dad "disowned" him. He blamed me. He says he had no connection with me emotionally from day we married 1997. He is dishonest and destroyed what I thought and felt for him. Now he wants to try to work things out he is reading the MB stuff. I want to leave but don't know how. We have 4 yr old son. I am crushed. If God could fix this or take it away I would stay. Help!

#422350 02/14/03 09:27 PM
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rose- I am sorry to hear about your story, especially on Valentines Day. <img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" />

I find your post cryptic, so you married in 97, have a 4 yo S. Your H had a ONS with OW, she got pregnant and he is the father?

What has happened since D-Day? You said he is reading the MB stuff, have you learned about the POJA? Have you talked about NC with OW? Are you in a plan A or B mode? Have you though about MC?

I would say that for the sake of your S you owe it to him to try and make it work. Maybe you have been trying, I don't know. A little more info would be helpful.

We are here for you! Keep posting and reading.
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#422351 02/14/03 10:09 PM
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Rose --

Welcome to MB. I know this hurts and is a very heavy burden for you. We'll help you all we can.

It's great that H is reading here at MB. Maybe you two can discuss some of the articles or even posts that apply. Let him read this thread. Maybe he'd post and start one of his own; lots of WS's here too.

Great also that H wants to work things out for your marriage and family. Your marriage is fixable = bottom line. Why do you want to leave? Overwhelmed? In pain? Unsure? "Crushed?" -- all normal reactions and feelings to what you're going through. How could you possibly be or feel any differently? You've been severely wounded, and very recently (D-Day only two months ago), you're still raw and reeling.

Have you and H talked about where each of you is with this? Is H sorry? Contrite? Remorseful? Is he trying to make these injuries up to you? Where is he? Where are you?

Please don't make any life-altering decisions when you're in this condition. Be patient with yourself; give yourself time to recover and heal. And it will take time. The deeper the wound, the longer the healing process, and this is a very deep wound.

In time, the pain will subside; you will get better. What hurts 24/7 for now will lessen some each day, whether you notice it or not. There's no timetable though; it will take as long as it takes (we're all different in this), which is why you have to give it and yourself time.

What do you really want to do? I'm encouraged that you said "...I would stay" if this could be fixed. Well, it can. Your son needs extra love and hugs from both you and H, as he's very aware of this instability in your family. Children suffer incredibly as well when these things happen.

Hang in there. Post to us anytime the going gets rough. Let us walk this path with you. We're here for you...

Ammon

#422352 02/15/03 06:01 AM
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You can recover, and even have a great marriage. Many people have. It isn't easy, and not everyone succeeds, but as long as you are both working on it, your chances are close to 100%, providing you do three things:

1.) Learn. Read everything in the Basic Concepts section of this site. Next, read all the Q&A's on infidelity on this site. They are found at How to Survive Infidelity Then buy and read “Surviving an Affair”, by Willard Harley, (hereinafter referred to as “SAA”) available at the Bookstore. SAA is THE best book on the market for helping one get to the root of “the message of the affair” (BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THE QUESTIONAIRES!). It (along with the Basic Concepts section of this site) is also helpful for giving you a vision of what a great marriage should look like. The approach of SAA to this problem is that the best defense against affairs is to have a great marriage. My wife said we had a good marriage, but she still had an affair. She was kidding herself, but it was not until we read SAA and saw what a great marriage should look like that we could clearly identify the problem areas and had the tools necessary to fix them.

The phrase “the message of the affair” is from the book “Torn Asunder”, by Carder (hereinafter referred to as “TA”). I personally think this is the best book on affair recovery we have read. In particular it deals with the two different paths the recovery of the betrayed spouse (BS) and the wayward spouse (WS) need to take, and deals w/ remorse in a way that I prefer to SAA. Read it together, if your spouse is willing. If not, go through it yourself. If you or your spouse has issues with control, you might also want to read “The State of Affairs”, (SOA) by Todd Mulliken, which also treats the remorse issue similarly to TA. SOA also deals with "the vision thing" for marriage, which is neglected in SAA.

2.) See a marriage counselor. This is hard. You need help. These boards are populated by amateurs. MC’s are professionals. There is a difference. They can help deal with issues the books don’t cover, and customize things to your individual situation. That said, there are lots of bad MC’s in the world. Read, and take to heart, How To Find A Good Marriage Counselor. You do not want an MC that is going to teach you how to live with an awful spouse, or how to adjust to divorce. Too many of them do, as is documented here: Hazardous Counseling. Reading that link may scare you off counseling, but it should give you some good ideas to ask a potential MC before you start w/ them, so you can avoid those that give you the wrong answers. You need one that is committed to helping couples have great marriages, and knows how to do that.

You are on an emotional rollercoaster right now, and there will be times that you will think it would be best to just divorce your spouse and go on with your life. Though there are no guarantees, recovery IS possible, but it takes time and effort. You will hate yourself if you don't do everything you can to make that happen. Give yourself the time you need.

3.) For me, getting my spiritual life in order was crucial. As I said, this is hard. I knew I would need all the help I could get. Repenting of the habitual sins in my life let me stop pushing God away so I could hold on for dear life. I had to humble myself and ask Him what I had done wrong, and what I could do to be the husband He wanted me to be for his child, my wife. This was not about blaming myself. It was about doing what I could to do my part in having a great marriage. My wife could participate or not, but I had to know I had done everything I could do. It also helped me to let go of thinking about what SHE needed to do, since I couldn't control her, anyway.

You might also want to read through: WAT's Quick Start Guidelines for Betrayed Spouses, but keep in mind that these are the writings of amateurs. Get the books, read the articles, and see a GOOD counselor - you need the best help you can get.


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