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#427922 05/01/03 08:11 AM
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Help! I don't know what to do anymore. I have suspected my husband of an affair for a while now. We haven't talked much for a couple days because of a fight we had. So this morning I asked how long he was going to not share what is on his mind. He asked me if I have been snooping through his wallet and pants. I lied and said no. He doesn't believe me, I think he was watching me last night. Now I feel aweful, especially since I lied about it. I asked him how honest he has been with me and he said as honest as you have. Ouch! I don't know how to make this right. He says he is moving out. I certainly didn't want my marriage to end like this. I always thought if I only knew for sure we can work this out at least it would be a start. I feel like I wrecked my marriage, kind of ironic on my thinking he is the one wrecking the marrage. now I will never know and maybe he never did. Any advice would be apprieciated.

#427923 05/01/03 08:39 AM
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jmho...be honest about your snooping. While if there is something to hide he may well take it further underground making it more difficult to discover, it's still best to be honest.

You can't very well expect him to be honest...if you're not being honest. While you did lie and he may have caught you...that is NOT why he is talking "moving out". There is more to this but I am uncertain as to what the "more" might be, is it because he's got someone on the side or is it because he's reached his limits on being grilled about an affair he isn't having?

You did NOT wreak your marriage! Since I don't know why you are suspicious of an affair, I can't say if you've got grounds for your remarks to your H about his possible betrayal. This is always a slippery slope here, to know what is reasonable suspicion and what is un-necessary jealousy. Both can cause problems in a relationship, as if reasonable the spouse is going to deny and if un-founded the spouse is going to build up a lot of resentment.

What red flags have you noticed? I do find it suspicious that he's vowing to move out NOW because you snooped and lied about it, if he did indeed catch you. That does seem a little extreem on the surface.

You know your situation better then anyone else...what do you think?

#427924 05/01/03 09:38 AM
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Thank you for replying wifey. I agree I need to be honest, that is one thing I have always prided myself on and now I feel awful. I think when I do tell him the truth he may just up and leave. I don't know anymore what he is thinking. Sometimes I think he wants a reason to leave. I try not to be unresonable suspicious, and I usually give him the benifit of the doubt. But lately he is so withdrawn I don't know what to think. I have a meeting with a counceler tommorrow but as for tonight I have to figure out what to say to him and hope that he doesn't leave.

#427925 05/03/03 03:12 PM
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(((((((((((((((HUGGS)))))))))))))

I am truly sorry that you are in this sad situaiton.

I too, didn't have the skills, understanding and coping skills in knowing how to deal with dishonest,deceptive person and felt so guilty.

However, I learned that discovering the truth is far more important to my sanity, family welfare to address the issues and take measures to find out the truth.

I can appreiciate how frustrating it is when one partner has perhaps a little overactive conscience and another partner has under active conscience.

You may wish to look at your situation from a different awareness perspective. You do have every right expect that your partner will conduct himself honestly with you and to explain what is actually going on in your relationship. How else can you get to down to the actual truth and work on/through core issues?

Would you agree that love, trust, respect are keys to a healthy stable relationship? The alarm bells of each virture going off are installed into us for good reason, and warrants boundry violation is occuring on some level.

What would your thoughts be about responiblitiy issues?

Isn't it the rightful responisibilty of onus here on your husband to clear up any of the misunderstandings which he is creating and address problems in your relationship by communicating to you directly or/& taking actions in a constructive course in suggesting you both visit a marriage councelor.

Would you agree you have the right to be informed and right to work out problems in healthy ways.

If he is having self personal issues and needs IC wouldn't it be the most loving, responible act on his part to, let you know and do what it takes for himself to get his head back on straight in a professional setting environment.

Truth,finding fact mission purpose here is for you to obtain accurate information.

Allows you to know exactly whats going on in your relationship and what's not. Paper trails, unexplained absenses, phone bills records, receipts etc. Quickly, seperates,converts fiction to reality.

Locating the truth& facts allows you to accurately measure the healthiness,authencity,quality flow of your relationship or lack of.

If hubby is indeed involved with a third party, you have the right to know. If he is crossing the hi fidelity lines, by being dishonest, demeaning, evasive, degrading you and dishonoring you. Would you condone his mistaken and misguided thinking?

In your situation you will find out that you do have the right to decide for self, to make informed choices to make adjustments and decide if you want to be engaged in nonconsenual affair, based on lust, deceit, manipulations.

Or continue to emotionally invest further engergies/expenditures with him under false pretenses in his possible selfish hard hearted state?

On another level he could possibly have other serious emotional issues/or bio chemical problems going on which might require an assessment from a astute medical professional if he is unwell. In that case as his spouse I am sure you would want to know and seek help for the well-being of your partner, your self, and family members.

Would you agree marriage is a two way street and not about all about one person?

If his behaviors and unfaithful actions are producing legimate concerns here which they are from what you descibe he needs to be responible/accountable here about what his intentions are.

Should there be a genguine misunderstandings on his part it is up to him to prove otherwise. His wanting to leave all of the sudden makes him even more suspect and gives the appearance of a greater tip of the ice berg of wrongdoings.

Hope you can obtain a good councelor to help you with your legimate concerns, and help chart out a course for you.

When I investigated my STBX at the time his stories and excuses. He turned out to be indeed a pathogical liar, bank statements proved his mismanging our families monies, spendings on other women, undersiderable friends, his work computer revealled a secret affair with a woman from his high school reunion, etc and the PI confirmed one of his many affairs.

Unpleasant as it was to get to the bottom of things the truth is so freeing, kinder than a cruel lie and relief to know that the problems weren't about me personally although I was the target, but rather his affairs were all about his twisted mind/heart.

Truth for me was learning about how corrupt his character really is and gave me the leverage to gain closure and decide that I didn't want to be married to a compulsive cheater, liar, and phony.

Hope you can spend a good deal of time here at marriagebuilders as you will find wonderful people, volumes of great advice and support.You will find many people who have worked hard in rebuilding their marriages from meltdowns.

#427926 05/03/03 07:39 PM
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Hi,

I empathize with you and know exactly what you're going through.

How I found out from my husband was to ask him point blank if he was having an affair. He said "yes" but what I discovered was that he was still seeing another woman and intended to keep her as a 'friend'. I even think that despite the commitment he gave me in front of a minister counselor that he is still keeping communication lines with this woman and her friends.

May I suggest that the lying and deceit can only be corrected as long as he is willing to change. That's why you need to go for help. It will be terribly difficult for you to take this on your own. Your h is definitely using your 'snooping' as an excuse to put you in a corner and turn the tables around to make you feel guilty when iundeed he is the one who has wronged you by lying and cheating.

I too find myself in the very bad situation where I feel that my husband is still lying to me and he is getting away with it for sure. I think it is only if we can get help that our marraige can be healed. But as long the lying si still there I think I should just walk away.

I hope you don't ever lose your own confidence in yourself. I think if you go for help you can both rekindle and heal your marriage.

Take care and I hope you will find the help and the healing in your marriage.

ilawolf


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