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Hi all, sorry to have met all of you this way.... but you all have found a great site. I can honestly admit I don't know where my marriage would be 2day if I had not found MB... Some advice my sound harsh, corny, or just plain unbelievable, but in short, its all 'hard work'

mjr2003, I don't really post much anymore, I'm pretty much just a 'lurker' but you & ur wifes posts have touched my soul..... believe in her... I know it seems that you cant right now, but at least let yourself try to...... She was once the love of your life, your soul mate, your reason for living, and she still is, and still can be forever....

My H and I had a major blowout in Mar 2002 about money. We had been 2gether almost 12 yrs at the time and NEVER once have we fought about money. At the end of this fight he told me 'I've known for months now that I dont want to be married anymore" I was devastated. NOTHING has ever made me suspect this was coming.

For the next 2 months he was distant, cold, coming home late from work, going out for 2 hrs at a time. He was the kind of person, up until this, that never wanted to leave the house, was always happy and content to just be home.

In May of 2003 I knew there was something going on. I snooped in his e-mail, I have NEVER done this before and found e-mails to and from a woman he worked with. 10 yrs his senior, married for almost 20 yrs, 2 teenage children, 1 which worked closely w/my H. My world shattered. I dont think I need to explain.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" />

Anyway, I called him at work and told him he needed to come home. I ?'d him and of course I got denial, until I told him her name, address, phone number, and quoted the emails. He then turned and said 'I'm going back to work, I need to break things off w/the only person that makes me happy,,, Does that make you happy?'

Rollar Coaster ride begins..........

For the next few months my new address was "Hell Highway" The most I got out of him was 'I know it was wrong, and it was pretty much over when you found out, but I really only wanted 1 night w/her.... Then I could have had closure' Which makes me believe it was only an EA not a PA.

He worked w/her for 8 more months, her and I had a phone conversation, her saying 'she was staying away from my H, she did not want to lose her H'

I saw my H go thru terrible withdrawal, panic attacks, bouts of depression. I asked him if he was like this because she broke it off. He said no, she didnt break it off, it was almost ended already, they both decided to not see each other anymore, to rebuild w/their own S's, but it was hard for him to look at her everyday, to wonder 'what if' and look at her and know how deeply he hurt me.

Right around Xmas 2002 was the final breaking point for me. I couldnt stand it anymore. How could I live w/a man that one minute I loved deeply and truly one minute and wanted to spit on the next. I informed him I would be moving out Feb 1st 2003.

Lived in Limbo for weeks waiting for Feb.

Jan 20 2003, He quit his job.... Has started a better one. Got a phone call in May that OW told her H and he wasnt taking it very well and she was worried he would go after my H. My H called him and admitted everything. Her H, God bless his soul was civil w/my H.

I now have a better marriage than the day I made my vows..... We have learned to be open and honest. We have learned what it is like w/o each other and we have learned we dont like it. H showed his remorse, and now shows that he loves me like no other...

Just wanted you all to know that an A Can be a blessing in a terrible, horrible disguise but it can be dealt with. It can be learned from.... It can heal... It can be a way to open our eyes when we just didnt realize they were closed...... God Bless you all,,, my prayers will be w/you, and lastly, a toast, for a happy and fulfilling future w/your spouses....... and for lessons learned

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Hi S&I,

I'm not a newbie (yours and my journeys started at about the same time).... but something you wrote struck me.

<<How could I live w/a man that one minute I loved deeply and truly one minute and wanted to spit on the next.>>

More than a year after dday now and I am still struggling with this very thing. Lately, I have been looking for an apartment, just in case. I told my H last night that even though he is doing everything absolutely right, I will never trust him fully again and my heart will never be fully his ever again. He is willing to live with that and hope that it will change with time.

I really don't think it will and I am not sure I am willing to live in a relationship so damaged that it can never feel 100% right again.

Do you still have those days when you want to bail? If not, how did you decide you could stay?

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snowbelle, I do have days that I feel as if I should give up.... Why would I want to give up my 'now perfect' H??? Because he wasnt always perfect... I asked him to give her up and stay w/me... and he did.. I was his choice. The only thing he asked of me was to forgive him.. Sometimes I feel like I cant whole heartedly forgive him, on those days, I CHOSE to forgive him. There are days I still have trouble looking at him w/o thinking of what he did, but I focus on 'what he is doing now'. Do I trust him 100%? NO WAY thats how this mess started. With me thinking he is the kind of person who would NEVER hurt me like that.. Does he have my heart back 100% NOPE I need to keep some of it for myself just in case he does break the part that he holds in his hands. Do I trust him more than I did a year ago? YES and it seems to be more and more as time passes by. My marriage vows stated 'for better or worse' and I have chosen to stand by them... Whatever I'm feeling I tell him... It's his choice to stand by me while I'm feeling this or not..... He always does... I do have days like you have too, we all do... Its what we do about/with them that counts....... keep a chin up and know YOU were his choice.... S&I

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S&I>>Thank you for your words of encouragement...I am trying as hard as I can to work things out with my W. However, I am finding it very hard to do (as BS's know). How can I love and be M to someone who I find repulsive?? I know this is not the real her, but I have a hard time believing that she will never have another A.

I felt I had been doing well considering I find out on less than a week ago, but today I find myself taking a few HUGE steps back. She is being real open and honest with me and I appreciate that, no matter how much it is hurting me. However, the more information I find out, the more beat down I get...I have been sick to my stomach the whole time, but now I am actually starting to vomit. While I would love to lose some weight, just not like this.

Your words (as well as many others on this board) are very encouraging and I truly admire your passion and courage to be willing to work on your M...I only wish that I can stay as strong as you.

Best of luck!

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mjr2003, I yr ago I was positive I was going to give up. I decided not to. You CAN be strong and get thru this but YOU have to DECIDE that thats what you WANT to do.

You are right,,, right now, this is NOT your wife. At least give her credit where credit is due,,, she came clean.. You could have found this out 10 yrs from now. She felt guilty and remorseful enough not to be able to let you live a lie any longer. Even as a BS, I applaud her. I only wish my H was the one who told me. I only wish he was as remorseful right from the start the way LIT is.... You can do this mjr... You just have to want this.....

Over a yr has gone by since my DDay... and some days arent as great as others... some days I still hop on the rollarcoaster, BUT its not worth giving up how wonderful OUR GOOD DAYS have become........S&I

P.S. Just last night we were talking about something totally non A related. He said, 'I love you. I've always loved you. I just knew we would both always feel that way so I didnt care so much about losing it. But now that I know you could change YOUR mind at any time, I appreciate it soooo much more" Hows that for a change of tune..?? It took a year, but the sincerity on his face was worth it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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mjr2003

You will one day understand how much courage it took for your wife to hang in there... yes at this moment you could care less about her pain because she deserves her pain and you don't deserve the pain she gave you.

But geuss what...she already knows you despise and loath her because you told her!

She already knows you have lost all respect for her and consider he less than human because you told her!

She already knows all your pain and who is at fault for it because you told her!

Geuss what?? You didn't have to tell her....she knew you would feel this way the moment you found out. She knew you would hate, curse her and wish her dead. She thought you might cause her bodily harm, divorce her in an instant and ruin her reputation to everyone that would listen.

Yet she still stands before and tells you she loves you. Still stands before and tells you how sorry she is. Still stands before you and tell you she can't believe she did the things she did. Still stands before you and tells you she is a changed person who has grown.

She does all of this knowing that all the while you will tell her you despise and loath, you've lost all respect for her and that she has caused you the greatest pain you ever felt in your life.

She hasn't earned your trust, your love, your forgiveness and won't for sometime. But you have to admire her courage. And believe it or not it takes a person with a decent heart and value system to stand up and take the medicine for the pain they have caused....she is standing there taking it all.

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I absolutely agree w/SD. I can't believe some of the things that I said to my H when I found out about his A. I made sure my words hurt him just as much as his A hurt me... LB's,,, plenty of them. I was still his choice <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> See her for what she is now mjr, not what she was during the 'fog' Keep a chin up S&I

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MJR the one thing you need to tell your W is that YOU NEED to know everything now..... She needs to be TOTALLY honest w/you NOW.... Trying to work on this and finding out more things during recovery are just a gigantic step backwards.... Some things she tells you might hurt, some things you ask her might hurt her to say, but it's crucial. Recovery was at a total standstill for me and H, I couldnt keep trying and then finding something new.... You need the Whole story, time to process it, then the will to move on........ jmho S&I


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