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If you were serving on a jury that was hearing a case against a BS that confronted and beat up the OM/OW, would you render a guilty verdict? Do not read too much into this question. Just imagine that you heard evidence that the BS found out who the OM/OW was and decided to meet and confront that individual. The meeting did not go well and the BS lost control and beat up the OM/OW and left the scene. As a jurist, what would you do?
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Where's the selection:
Not guilty and award them a prize
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> sorry, sometimes the Irish in me gets out.
M. <small>[ December 25, 2003, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Mortimer ]</small>
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If it happens instantly and not plan ... not guilty based on temporary insanity.
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I'm kind of black and white about the law, so I'd have to go with guilty. Then see if the jury can recommend an appropriate punishment, like a $1 fine.
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ABSOLUTELY GUILTY
HARSHEST PUNISHMENT ALLOWED BY LAW
NO CHANCE FOR PAROLE
PUBLIC HUMILATION
The nerve of the OP's face smashing the BS's fist....such an injustice cannot go unpunnished! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />
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Guilty.
No question about that. Violence is always wrong. That is why we live in a civilized society. It is wrong to take the law into your own hands. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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I may be able to believe a temporary insanity, but that's entirely based upon the evidence presented; otherwise, guilty. The law says assault is a crime, it doesn't allow for the reason.
A jury is asked to weigh not whether they agree with the actions taken, but rather whether or not the evidence supports that the defendent committed a violation of the law.
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I would set him free and convict the OM. Why should the OM be free after having assaulted you. Yes, it is a form of assault that people disregard. The punishment-life in prison without parole.
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If you took out the BS/OM/OW aspect and someone lost control and beat up someone else and left the scene, why would that be any different?
I can think of many other circumstances where you would think it would be ok to do that other then an A.
Guilty!
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It would depend on the specific circumstances.
At the very least, I would have to take the affair into consideration as a form of provocation on the part of the OM/OW.
Beyond that, it would really depend on the specifics of the event. Who threw the first punch? Who said what? Did one person threaten the other?
Oh, but I voted Not Guilty on the grounds that most fights are the fault of both parties involved. <small>[ December 31, 2003, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Uncomfortably Numb ]</small>
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As jurors, we are obligated to decide a case without passion, sympathy, and without regard to our own prejudices. I would have to vote guilty regardless of my disgust toward the adulterer.
If really pressed as to whether I could follow the law in spite of my own feelings, I would try to be excused from a jury panel where such a case was being tried.
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Wow, This certainly caught my eye!! a couple of months ago, I discoverd my husband was having an affair and that woman attacked me with a pool que in a store parking lot and beat the heck out me HUGE, I am now fully recovered, and my teeth are fixed, cheekbone repaired and am feeling quite alot better now.
I understand the BS rage and anger, however, being the one who was beat up, I can tell you that to beat someone up is not only against the law, it shows the aggressor as an out of control person who needs help, temporary insanity is just not good enough. I told her husband and they split up for a while, now they are back together, but she lost it and came after me in a rage that was just beyond believable! It has made her the laughing stock of our community, and SHE looks like a fool, not me. It shows a tremendous lack of self control and maturity that our society is lacking.
I would listen to the case and judge it according to the judges direction, however, to attack someone, no matter what is unacceptable in my book!!
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Very interesting thought! If I look at just the black/white- I say guilty. But- feelings are what make us humans different.
When your spouse betrays you, the person they are betraying with in a sense rapes you. You go to bed with your spouse thinking you are sleeping with your spouse and only your spouse-mentally and physically- to find out- wrong. You have been sleeping with your spouse and their lover. Kinda disgusting. Anyway, take out the infidelity. If someone raped your spouse, child, etc... and you punched the rapist.... Probably still wrong- but food for thought.
On a side note, there is a bridge in my State that goes over a river- the river divides two counties. Way back when(I'm not sure of the date, but early 1900's) when they first built the bridge, a scorned BS shot and killed the OM on the bridge.
No one cared that the OM was shot- infact- they all cheered as they stood on the banks of the river! The entire problem was the OM fell smack in the middle of the river, and neither County wanted to pay for the burial. There was no prosecution or even a question to whether the shooting was right or wrong.. Just no one wanted to pay for the BS funeral!!! A fight of several months ensued as the BS "rotted" without a burial. Hmmm- might stop some of the infidelity taking place!
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This sure hit home with me! Two weeks ago the OW came to my house looking for my WH because he was late for their date!! (we were saying our goodbyes since daughters and I were leaving permanently for State of MI) I would vote NOT GUILTY only because I was dragged into a confrontation with the OW and yes, beat up on her (but not severely - just enough to show her I wasn't taking any more of her crap!) - When OW first showed up on my driveway, I told her to stay in her car and leave, which of course, SHE REFUSED. To make matters worse, she got out of her car and started her accusations and screaming at me. Then tried to start a physical fight with me (husband then came between us) - Anyways, she PROVOKED ME (yes, I was in a rage) and she came to my home (she should have stayed away from me and my (2)daughters. Fighting is wrong however, if provoked, I believe you need to defend yourself and thats EXACTLY what I did - protected myself!
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OH PLEASE! The same verdict if a H beat up a wife, the same verdict if a OW beat up a BW, the same verdict if a martian beat up a vulcan.
Get Real! Laws protect us all. There is NO excuse for violence.
hugs, c
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Aren't there some laws that allow for extenuating circumstances such as those? Crime of passion laws? Perhaps those only apply if you catch your spouse and another in the act.
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I voted not guilty. Adultry is a crime and I thought that if you committed a crime, then the rules of civility don't apply. For instance if someone broke into my house and slipped and fell, they couldn't sue me and/or I couldn't be charged with negligence or something.
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yeah, i suppose, violence is never right.
However there is No excuse for an A. And in most states, it's not even a crime, even though it causes severe pain and emotional trauma and financial loss to children, spouses, etc.!!
An A is a CRIME of the worst kind....because society accepts it...and it's victims are often forgotten.
I feel NO GUILT for the rage I felt and displayed on the night I found my WH with OW. It came over me suddenly and without warning. The pain and destruction that my children and I have suffered as a result of this A could have been avoided and that is unforgiveable! Yet OW & WH just may live happily ever after!
NOT GUILTY!
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