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Cerri,

Can you please explain why you feel that way? I guess, I told her about this place so that she could see what I am thinking and going through. One of her issues with me has always been that I have been withdrawn from her. I figured this was a good way to open myself up to her and show her what I am feeling and going through. Although, I do talk to her about my feelings a lot more since this whole saga began.

As a matter of fact, I think this helps me talk to her and express my feelings. I often have a hard time putting my feelings into words and if I can sit in front of the keyboard and think about how I want to say them then I am able to talk to her about those feelings. One issue that has come up was someone replied to one of my posts and their words described what I had been trying to come up with the words for so I borrowed their wording. She told me she thought I was being fake, and just saying things to win her back. I explained it as if you were at the store buying a greeting card. You read 20-30 before you find the one that says what you want to say. It was just a way for me to get my feelings across that I couldn't come up with the words for.

I guess, I am just trying to subscribe to SH policy of radical honesty. I am keeping no secrets from my W and she can confirm what I tell her about my feelings by following up here if she so wishes.

I really am interested in why you think I am hurting my situation. That is the last thing I want. I am trying to save my M and "thought" by telling her about this place I was doing the right thing.

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marriage is forever?:


I guess, I told her about this place so that she could see what I am thinking and going through. One of her issues with me has always been that I have been withdrawn from her. I figured this was a good way to open myself up to her and show her what I am feeling and going through.

The problem is that you are acting as if the woman you are dealing with now is the same woman you were married to before she had an affair. She is not. That woman, the one who complained that you didn't share with her, wanted to have an intimate and connected relationship with you.
The woman who is having an affair with someone else does not want that. In fact there is probably very little that she wants less than that.

When your spouse is having an affair there are things you need to do to work towards bringing about an end to the affair and to protect your marriage. Most of them are things your spouse is going to be really really unhappy about. Confrontation, exposure, and most likely Plan B. Telegraphing that you are going to do those things and the strategies behind them makes about as much sense as calling Al Quaeda and inviting them into the strategic planning sessions for the war.

Your wife is an addict. She is under the influence and addicted to the chemicals produced in her brain in reaction to this other person in her life. Any hint of a threat to that addiction is not going to be taken graciously - quite the opposite. Showing her all the support, strategy, and belief system behind that threat to the addiction is not helpful.


Although, I do talk to her about my feelings a lot more since this whole saga began.

That is an excellent plan.

"Honey, I'm hurt and horrified that this is going on. I'd like it to stop," is a good choice. "I'm doing xyz (which you will hate) based on the advice people I met online - here read it," is not.

As a matter of fact, I think this helps me talk to her and express my feelings. I often have a hard time putting my feelings into words and if I can sit in front of the keyboard and think about how I want to say them then I am able to talk to her about those feelings. One issue that has come up was someone replied to one of my posts and their words described what I had been trying to come up with the words for so I borrowed their wording. She told me she thought I was being fake, and just saying things to win her back. I explained it as if you were at the store buying a greeting card. You read 20-30 before you find the one that says what you want to say. It was just a way for me to get my feelings across that I couldn't come up with the words for.


And did she buy the greeting card explanation or was she just annoyed with the entire situation?

I guess, I am just trying to subscribe to SH policy of radical honesty.

Yes, I am quite aware of the PORH - I trained with Willard Harley (it's his concept, btw, not Steve's), worked as a volunteer MB mentor for couples after the weekend, and continue to work professionally in the marriage community.


I am keeping no secrets from my W and she can confirm what I tell her about my feelings by following up here if she so wishes.

Telling her HOW YOU FEEL, is great. Having her read your posts and others' replies here is not going to help you. Does it violate the PORH? I suppose one could make a case for it, and I have often suggested that people not post here if their spouse is not aware and enthusiastic about doing so. However, when there is active infidelity or other addiction there are steps you need to take to protect the marriage that may mean not following all the rules otherwise laid out by MB.

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dear MIF-

I just exposed my WH's A to the OW family, who I know. You can read my story in this forum. Her father doesn't support it but her mom is having trouble believing her daughter could be in such a situation. I still need to speak with her directly and give her proof, which I have plenty. WH was very upset when he found out. Says it just makes him want to see and talk to OW more because of my actions. I said ok if that is what you feel you need to do, but your A is wrong and I will continue to tell anyone I deem necessary in order for this A to become public knowledge. WH also said that by me telling people is not going to make him change his actions. I have also come to realize through MB that my WH is most likely a serial cheater. And exposure probably won't change his actions, he has to change himself, that is why the next person I am going to is our Pastor, I believe if I can convince him to sit down and get counseling with him the change will begin. But even through all of that, him getting angry and cursing me out and so on and so forth he came home after our heated discussion over the phone. And still comes home every night and sleeps in our bed. So take heart, if you expose the A, call your W bluff.

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