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my husband had an affair and it ended five months ago, but he still feels very quilty. Is this normal? He said he forgave himself when we went to counseling. What should I do

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Yeah, affair recovery usually takes about 18 mos to 2 years, but usually it is the betrayed spouse that has the hardest time. How are YOU doing?

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Thanks for writing back. There are days when I'm doing fine and then there are days when I say this really stinks. I forgave my husband, but that doesn't mean it takes away pain. When we connect, I feel good but when we don't it pretty much takes me right back to the A. John,am I correct in assuming that your W had the A? How are doing and how long has it been?

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I just read your post again, I see that your in recovery. I'm new to this forum, I don't get all the abbrevations, but I'm trying.

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My wife's affair ended the day she confessed to me, in Oct '01. Things are mostly good. I still have bad days (and weeks), but they are much less bad, and the good days are better than things ever were before the affair (and I do mean "ever" - better than early in our marriage, better than when we were dating. Ever.) The single thing that helped us the most was the spiritual transformation my wife started when she repented and accepted God's forgiveness. Taking the Emotional Needs Questionaire (ENQ) was the second most important piece in our recovery, because it showed us what to focus on in our marriage. Reading through Survivng an Affair was important because it pointed us to the ENQ. Torn Asunder was good because it helped both of us work throughthe different things we needed to work through to recover.

So, usually when I first respond to a first post I just copy the following:

You can recover. Many people have. It isn't easy, and not everyone succeeds, but as long as you are both working on it, your chances are close to 100%, providing you do three things:

1.) Learn. Read everything in the Basic Concepts section of this site. Next, read all the Q&A's on infidelity on this site. They are found at How to Survive Infidelity Then buy and read “Surviving an Affair”, by Willard Harley, (hereinafter referred to as “SAA”) available at the Bookstore. SAA is THE best book on the market for helping one get to the root of “the message of the affair” (BUT YOU HAVE TO DO THE QUESTIONAIRES!). It (along with the Basic Concepts section of this site) is also helpful for giving you a vision of what a great marriage should look like. The approach of SAA to this problem is that the best defense against affairs is to have a great marriage. My wife said we had a good marriage, but she still had an affair. She was kidding herself, but it was not until we read SAA and saw what a great marriage should look like that we could clearly identify the problem areas and had the tools necessary to fix them.

The phrase “the message of the affair” is from the book “Torn Asunder”, by Carder (hereinafter referred to as “TA”). I personally think this is the best book on affair recovery we have read. In particular it deals with the two different paths the recovery of the betrayed spouse (BS) and the wayward spouse (WS) need to take, and deals w/ remorse in a way that I prefer to SAA. Read it together, if your spouse is willing. If not, go through it yourself. If you or your spouse has issues with control, you might also want to read “The State of Affairs”, (SOA) by Todd Mulliken, which also treats the remorse issue similarly to TA. SOA also deals with "the vision thing" for marriage, which is neglected in SAA.

2.) See a marriage counselor. This is hard. You need help. These boards are populated by amateurs. MC’s are professionals. There is a difference. They can help deal with issues the books don’t cover, and customize things to your individual situation. That said, there are lots of bad MC’s in the world. Read, and take to heart, How To Find A Good Marriage Counselor. You do not want an MC that is going to teach you how to live with an awful spouse, or how to adjust to divorce. Too many of them do, as is documented here: Hazardous Counseling. Reading that link may scare you off counseling, but it should give you some good ideas to ask a potential MC before you start w/ them, so you can avoid those that give you the wrong answers. You need one that is committed to helping couples have great marriages, and knows how to do that.

You are on an emotional rollercoaster right now, and there will be times that you will think it would be best to just divorce your spouse and go on with your life. Though there are no guarantees, recovery IS possible, but it takes time and effort. You will hate yourself if you don't do everything you can to make that happen. Give yourself the time you need.

3.) I understand that you may not be a person of faith, but for me, getting my spiritual life in order was crucial. As I said, this is hard. I knew I would need all the help I could get. Repenting of the habitual sins in my life let me stop pushing God away so I could hold on for dear life. I had to humble myself and ask Him what I had done wrong, and what I could do to be the husband He wanted me to be for his child, my wife. This was not about blaming myself. It was about doing what I could to do my part in having a great marriage. My wife could participate or not, but I had to know I had done everything I could do. It also helped me to let go of thinking about what SHE needed to do, since I couldn't control her, anyway.

You might also want to read through: WAT's Quick Start Guidelines for Betrayed Spouses, but keep in mind that these are the writings of amateurs. Get the books, read the articles, and see a GOOD counselor - you need the best help you can get.

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Thanks for all the input. I'm going to the bookstore tonight. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> John, I am a person of faith and that is what carried me through the storm and now the recovery. Forgiveness came pretty easy for me, but there are days when it really eats away at me. When I found out that my H was having an A (I caught him and I had all the proof) (he denied and then finally came clean)I wasn't sure if I wanted to work it out if my H wanted to reconcile. And if that in mind I still knew I forgive him in time (If God can forgive,I kept saying I could forgive him) but the bigger question was did I want to stay married to him. I started MC on my own, and I came to terms that I didn't give my marriage my all. And I believed we could have a better and marriage, if that is what my H wanted as well. But if he didn't I knew I needed to work on myself, to be a stronger person and to forgive myself as well. My H moved out when I confronted him, (I asked him to) and ten days went by when he admitted everything and realized what was always staring him in his face. The first thing he asked me is what do you want from me and I told him that we had to go to MC and he agreed. I asked him when he was having (and before) the A but he declined.


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