Yes, the conversation goes like the one you mentioned. I am so hurt that I can't even talk reasonably to him without blowing up or crying. Our discussions get us nowhere because I need a third party moderator and he refuses counciling.

An MC can say things to the S that the S can't say for herself because then it sounds self-serving. An MC comes from a relatively unbiased point of view and I certainly don't.

Tomorrow night he will want to move back home to try and work things out. HE says that the OW is slowly moving out of the picture via his waiting till it is HER idea.

H admits that he is a good manipulator. I contend that he manipulated her into liking him and now that he is tired of her( not because I have asked begged pleaded for him to let her go) he is waiting for her exit.

He now wants to work on our M. I beleive that H still wll make decisions based on what makes him happy. He admits to being very selfish. I am reluctant to work it out because he still says that I just want him to be deaf dumb and blind, and I refuse to let him speak to any young girl. He refuses to acknowledge the hurt he has caused. H also blames me for the potential break up of our family because he frequently is physically present.

I am almost nauseated at the prospect of having to confront him yet another time knowing the outcome of tomorrow's conversation. He will probably talk me into giving it a try. He does not want to be accountable by showing me his phone records or his credit card bills.

This is where an MC is important. H and I are not on the same page. H wants us to have a great M but is unwilling to work on it.

Has anyone had this experience?