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WHAT A F#$KED DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<P>To day was my day as usual to have the boys. I went to pick them up at MIL, and they were very short with me. MIL said she forgot I was coming to get them. I DO THIS EVERY WEEK HOW DO YOU FORGET??????<P>Any way I got home and the baby was crying cause he was hungry. I went into the diaper bag for a diaper and formula. I foud that there was none, nothing. No bottle, formula, and only 2 diapers.<P>I called her. She said " I CANT BELIEVE YOU DONT HAVE THE STUFF NEEDED TO CARE FOR YOUR KIDS. ". She did this on purpose.<P>My mom got home. She watched the boys while I went for the stuff. Well when I got home she was there. She left work early to come get the boys. WHAT ABOU MY TIME?????????<P>My mom said after she left she was trying to leave before I got back, and she asked to atleast have the courtisy to wait till I got back to tell the boys bye.<P>my oldest (4yrs) did not want to go. He said I want to stay with daddy. So there wasnt a fight I told him he had better go. I will see you again.<P>F%$K HER, AND EVERYTHING ABOUT HER. WHY DID I WANT HER BACK? SHE HASALWAYS BEEN LIKE THIS!<P>NOW HOW WAS YALLS DAY? GOOD I HOPE!<P>Paul<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

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Paul--<P>Sounds like you could use a hug !<P>{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{PAUL}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}<P>I am so sorry that your day was bad-it seems some people will go to any expense to hurt someone. Too bad they forgot the kids involved [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com] I will pray for you when I say a prayer for me [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com]<P>I hope your tomorrow is much better!!!!<P>------------------<BR>*heartache*<BR>"Loyalty Is A Two Way Street"<BR>

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Let me answer from the other point of view. My H comes and picks up the girls. I pack enough stuff for four days and provide all reading and play material. The girls are 7 & 9. The 7 year old has been having some emotional problems and goes through satges where she dirties her pants. My H throws the underware away. It is so nice to bring them home less than 48 hours later minus 2-3 pair of underware. They come home with all the dirty laundry. I even send snacks and drinks because being that they are not 21 ( to drink the only beverage in his refrig.) They are only offered water. Sometimes he even forgets to feed them even though he takes them with him when he goes to a restuarant. Now he has bought them all kinds of clothes, jewelry and shoes. When they get there they must remove all their clothes and even their shoes and put his on. He demands this. They are not allowed to bring any of these things home. Sometimes I feel like sending them out naked, only wrapped in newspaper. He tells them that they look like junk and that he will only take them somewhere if they look appropriate. All this from a man who wouldn't shell out a dime for school clothes, book rental, winter stuff or supplies. I guess I would say it is a good idea to keep extra everything on hand just in case....but please don't be like him....the girls get so upset how he won't let them enjoy the stuff he got them except every other week-end. It is the kids that suffer<BR>Nancy

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Paul,<P>She is just "getting you back" for the money. Trying to put the screws on you for sure.<P>Don't worry...it won't last. She will be plenty glad to drop the boys to you once she gets her social life back into full swing.<P>Yes, she did a real mean thing today! [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com]<P>{{{{{{{{{{{{Paul}}}}}}}}}}}}}}<P>Roll Me Away<P>------------------<BR>"Life is made up, not of great sacrifices or duties, but of little things in which smiles and kindnesses and small obligations, given habitually, are what win and preserve the heart and secure comfort."<P>Sir Humphry Davy<BR>

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Brown & Mental...<BR>I must admit that I haven't read all of your previous posts. I will say that from what I have read here, that I can't see why in the world you would want these people back? Forgetting to feed the kids when they are in the restaurant?!?! Taking the kids back when you haven't had your time?!?! Hmmm, let's see who can be more neglectful, and who can use the kids as a tool to get back at you. I am only reflecting on my upbringing here. My mother has been divorced "several" times. My brother, my sisters, and myself became easy weapons for one parent to use against the other. I hate these memories!! I hate people that use their kids as pawns for these absolutely retarded games! By the way guys, don't take this as a slam against you. I haven't seen anything that says you treat them the same way. I am just completely sympathetic to your anger.<BR><P>------------------<BR>" I broke my promise to be faithful...so I make a new promise to be truthful and loving." Take care in the things you do and say. Be sure that they are loving and caring...not hurtful and neglecting. Arik<P>

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Paul,<P>My brother in pain...<P>Mental is right... be the boy scout... be prepared!!!<P>Document everything...<BR>Most importantly what <B>YOU</B> do!<BR>Less importantly what she does/doesn't do!<BR><B>DO IT DAILY!</B><P>You can go back to the courts later!!!<P>Stop... pray... breath...<P>I love you man...<BR>Stay in His steps...<P>Release... vent... here it is safe....<P>A recommended site for you...<A HREF="http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/" TARGET=_blank>Fathers Rights To Custody(FRTC)</A>... This will give you <B>no</B> "marriage building" ideas... but to protect your kids... it helps!<P>Jim

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I am so sorry for your day. It sounds awful. Sounds like she might really be trying to get back at you. Ashamed she is so selfish that she would use her children. Sounds like a pretty immature woman. Of course, anger makes you do strange things. <P>Do what's right for the children. Never talk bad about her in front of them. One day they will see the truth and need a reliable, honorable parent to turn to.<BR>

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Hey Brownphd.....<P>Not a good one, huh? I'm sorry!!!<P>She has the MIL playing this game also? That's a shame!!!<P>It's just her immature little hissyfit cuz you won't play her way anymore!!<P>To be expected....<P>That's why we wanted to make sure you have yourself in a good place - both emotionally and legally!!! They do this!!!! They will use anything and everything for their own selfish desires!!<P>Make sure you document all the goings on including you, her, the inlaws - all of it!!!! Keep to a regular schedule with the kids, pay the child support required and never....never show anything other than loving emotions in front of your boys!!!!<P>I am still unclear as to the legal position you are in....do you have a GOOD lawyer? If not - GET ONE PRONTO!!<P>You don't want this messy...no one does, but with your wife's waffling and irrational mind and behavior - she could turn on a dime....remember the evil clone!!!! Protect yourself and your boys!!!!!<P>HUGS, PRAYERS AND STRENGTH,<P>Sheba

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Thanks for the replys.<P>First. Iwould NEVER do anything to hurt the kids. I too came from a screwed up family, and know how it feels. I dont talk bad about their mother to them.<P>Second for the past year, she has sent the stuff I needed for my oldest, anf for the past 2 months sent the stuff needed for my 5 month old. I pissed her off so now she is going to show me.<P>I threatened her with her abortion last night. I told her she dont want to get SH!@y with me cause what kind of mother uses that for a form of birth control. She was hot, and said it never happened and I was lying. I PAID FOR IT.<P>My main concern is the kids. I love them and My oldest always wants to stay with me, I wouldnt harm them in any way.<P>------------------<BR>brownphdt<P>

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Hi Brownphd -<P>Now Brown...we KNOW that YOU would never do anything to hurt your kids!!!<P>RELAX......<P>Apparently your wife and her family might......soooooooo - you need to protect them as much as possible!!!<P>What is this threatening about the abortion stuff....that's not nice Brown!! When you are that upset...don't lower yourself to her tactics - OK? Not a very good idea!!<P>Besides being a MAJOR LOVE BUSTER!!!!!<BR>AND yes....Lovebusting is still a no-no!! Even if your heading for divorce!!!<P>C'mon....you know that was kinda just a kneejerk stab right back at her for what she did and said....does that make you any better than she is acting? <P>Put out your hand.....OK - slap with a wet noodle!!!!! LOL!!!<P>Hang on Brown...just let her hissyfits and bad behavior roll off you.....let them come back to haunt her and you keep your own actions and words free and clear of this immature garbage.<P>RUN - don't walk....to the computer and vent here instead!!!! We can take it!!!<P>BIG HUGS,<P>Sheba


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