I guess for my sanity it is time for me to take the plunge into plan B. H left me. He said he still confused...still seeing OW and doesn't know what he wants. She is such a coniving B**** she called to tell me that she doesn't even care about him...to her it is a game...I told him what she said which was a big mistake because I know he will confront her and she will deny it, and she will have her claws into him even more. So I played right into her game because I don't want to see him get hurt and I don't want to lose our marriage...<P>I need to just break from this...he doesn't believe me. HE is just going to need to be hurt and I wan't stop that. <P>I really believe he does love me and does care but he can't break free from her. So we have no hope at this time. <P>I just love him so much I don't want to see him be hurt. HE is never happy anymore...he always looks so sad. I hope he can find what he needs to do to find the happiness within him.<P><P>------------------<BR>Jaded Heart<BR>____________<P> <A HREF="http://journeys.webprovider.com" TARGET=_blank>http://reflect.to/journeys</A> <P> <BR>

Ah Stacy, ick yuck and who the hell does that OW think she is to call you?<P>I'm sorry your H is hurting so much too, and I know how it is to watch him in pain. David's like that too... never happy, always sad and depressed (and depressing). It hurts to watch, I know.<P>Just wanted you to know that I read this, that I care, and that I'm sorry for your pain. <P>------------------<BR>~Sheryl<P>Nobody knows what you want except you, and nobody will be as sorry as you if you don't get it. ~Barry Manilow

I always find it so surprising that our spouse's can't see the OP as clearly as everyone else can. I guess they are too involved and feel like they know them so much better than everyone else that they don't see the other side that we see. Plan B sounds good for you right now, although it is hard to do. Take care.

Thank you Sheryl and loveu...<BR>I have not lost all hope yet, but I am getting to that point. So now I sit, pray and wait for him to see the truth. I hope it is before he loses everything. He has me, the kids, and his mom on the line...<P>------------------<BR>Jaded Heart<BR>____________<P> <A HREF="http://journeys.webprovider.com" TARGET=_blank>http://reflect.to/journeys</A> <P> <P>

Hi....Sorry I'm late reading & responding to your Post.<P>I'm sorry about your situation and the pain that your H is causing you. I can't believe the gall that OW has in contacting you. No class at all! What a big-time Loser.<P>Your H will eventually see this OW for what she is. Trust me, he will.<P>If you feel you are ready for Plan B....then, I'll support your decision. E-mail me whenever you need to. I'll be here. Hugs & prayers to you....

jadedheart,<P>I too was in your position at one time... I didn't do a good enough <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan A</A>... so I contacted the MB Counseling services...<P>I would recommend that you do the same before you start <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan B</A>! I would recommend that you have 2 <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi7200_phone.html" TARGET=_blank>telephone counseling sessions</A> ($85US a pop... but well worth it) with <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi7010_about.html" TARGET=_blank>Steven W. Harley</A>. Check out the <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi7000_counsel.html" TARGET=_blank>Counseling Center</A>... and for some specifics... <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi7015_fee.html" TARGET=_blank>Fees for Counseling Services</A> and <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi7020_sched.html" TARGET=_blank>Scheduling an Appointment</A>! Moving to <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan B</A> at the wrong time is going to hurt you in the long run!<P>I kind of put together some ideas of <A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi8113_ab.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan A and Plan B</A> on a couple of posts i made a while back... check them out...<A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/011323.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan A - 101</A>...and...<A HREF="http://www.marriagebuilders.com/forum/Forum1/HTML/011046.html" TARGET=_blank>Plan B - 101</A>.<P>I hope they help too! <P>Prayers for a good decision. <P>Jim<BR>Working hard to save my marriage,

NoTrust..thank you for your support.<P>Jim,<BR>Thank you for the post. I reread all of the Plan A/B stuff and I should stay in plan A for a while. <BR>Thank you for the prayers for a good decision. That is my biggest fear right now that I will make the wrong decisions!<P>I guess I am feeling like I am not strong enough to make it while he decides...so I guess I need to pray for strength too...<P><BR>------------------<BR>Jaded Heart<BR>____________<P> <A HREF="http://journeys.webprovider.com" TARGET=_blank>http://reflect.to/journeys</A> <P> <P><p>[This message has been edited by jadedheart (edited January 09, 2000).]

Prayers coming your way...<P>Personal set backs hurt... <B>I know...</B> <BR>But prayer is always there... <BR>From me you'll always have some!<P>Jim

jadedheart<P>I'm glad to hear that you're continuing Plan A. When YOU'RE ready and can't stand it anymore, that's the time for B. <P>This is a hard thing to do, but it can be done. You'll be ok. Plan A will help w/ that too.<P>just hang in there.<P>Lori

Lori and Jim...and thank you for the prayers. I told H today that I can not let him go yet and that I will continue to love him and wait for him until he says he want's a divorce. I believe in us to much to give up yet!<P>So my decision is that I have no decision to make. I want him and I will wait for him. He is the one who needs to make the decision.<P>I believe love will find the way...<P>------------------<BR>Jaded Heart<BR>____________<P> <A HREF="http://journeys.webprovider.com" TARGET=_blank>http://reflect.to/journeys</A> <P> <P>