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Hi k--<P>You've shed some light for me in the past so I was wondering if you could help me with my struggle in Plan B. You said that you were in a modified Plan B with your wife; you had some contact. <P>Well, the last I spoke with you, I was having our baby's Baptism. H showed up at the church and I didn't realize how emotional for me it was going to be actually seeing him for the 1st time in 2.5 mos. He left the church as soon as the mass was over and we really didn't say anything to each other except a question he had about our older son. Since that time, whenever he come to get the kids for visitation, I have been there instead of going into another room to avoid him. We'll say hello or quick comments about the boys.<P>At this point I feel I may be getting mixed messages from him but I'm not sure. I can't even look him in the eyes because I know I'll just break down. I'm contemplating telling him that I love him, need him and want nothing but our marriage to work......but I'm afraid. So, after discussing it with my therapist, I've decided to ease into it instead--maybe establish eye contact 1st and then go from there. <P>I know Steve Harley has told me not to have ANY contact with him. Because of this I at times feel he might be giving up on the marriage because he feels I have just accepted the fact that he filed for divorce.<BR>I'm not sure if I told you that he hasn't done anything to push this divorce along since he filed 6/1/99.<P>Could you tell me how you got through this with your W? How much contact did you have with her? Did you feel it helped you to have some contact? Or would it be more beneficial for me to continue no contact? As you can tell I am sooooo confused on how to handle this--it seems to keep getting harder.<P>Thanks for you help!<P>

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Jackie:<P>A lot of the "plan B" contact I had with my wife was detremental---it was lovebusting type of stuff. I settled down on that, but it was hard. Towards the end of my separation, I started to get (very) mixed messages from my wife (and her sister) on things; but that was because she was pregnant by the OM.<P>My plan B was pretty short (a little under 2 months). And our reconciliation wasn't ideal---my wife made no concessions to work on the marriage, or even to end the affair---although I knew with a pregnancy she would be forced to choose. So for my case, it was a Plan A---Plan B---Plan A(2)---withdrawal situation. The disadvantage to that is that our marriage recovery is taking longer becuase my wife was unwilling to do much formal participation (counseling) early on.<P>I notice that you have a therapist, as well as Steve Harley for a marriage counselor. I did the dual therapy for a while, but I quit with the therapist and stuck with Steve. The reason was that I was getting two different lines of advice---and after discussing it with both of them, I felt that Steve was not only a better source of help for my marriage, but he was equally valuable as a "personal" therapist. You may want to either get the two of them on the same page, or just go with one of them. In areas of marriage, I think Steve is extremely knowledgable. I know that I did the "modified" plan B and that Steve didn't complain much (but he did let me know when I was shooting myself in the foot)---but my circumstances may be different than yours.<P>Here's what I'd tell you, based on what little I know.<P>If you're happy with your plan A effort, and you wrote a very good Plan B letter that states that you are willing to work on the marriage, I think that I would encourage you to write another letter (Plan B follow-up letter) restating this, and see how that goes first. I did this too (under Steve's guidance), because my wife felt I was punishing her by moving out. I think that if you write to him (under Steve's or your therapist's guidance), let him know that you still want this to work out, he may reconsider.<P>And I would not push for anymore contact right now. I'd even suggest less, but you don't want to be viewed as doing it for punishing reasons.<P>A face-to-face deal may be very emotional for you, and either lashing out or breaking down may not be the thing to do. If your husband can deal with written communication easier, I think another letter is the way to go.<P>I know the hopelessness and confusion that you're feeling. I never thought any of the stuff I was doing was "right" or working. But I put my marriage in Steve's hands, we developed this plan and I executed it to the best of my abilities, and I knew the moment that she affirmed that she was pregnant that this was the opportunity that I had been praying for (the gift-wrapping of that opportunity was somewhat of a surprise...).<P>It may sound lame, but I'd talk to Steve and discuss your options, and try to come to a conclusion that will protect your feelings as much as possible while giving your husband another opportunity to reconcile.<P>Good luck.


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