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#54105 03/27/99 11:30 PM
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My husband goes out with the guys from work sometimes for happy hour, usually no big deal cause he has just 1 or 2 beers & is home in time for dinner.<P>Last night, however, they went out cause his boss is moving. The happy "hour" went for 5 hours. Then one guy suggested going to a topless bar. My husband said he would just go on home, but they teased him & called him a wuss & wimp. He decided to go with them & they went in one car. He didn't get home till 12:30 p.m. & I was already mad cause I had been waiting, wondering if he had drank too much to drive, & wondering why he hadn't called to say he'd be late. He said the guys wanted to close the place down, but he insisted at midnight they they give him a ride back to his car. <P>When he got home (not drunk thank goodness), he admitted that they went to a topless bar & I got so angry. He then said that one guy had paid for all of them to have lap dances, & I went toally ballistic, yelling & crying. We stayed up for hours arguing & I cried a lot. <P>This is a 2nd marriage for both of us, & I felt betrayed that he had gone to at topless bar after only 1 1/2 years of marriage, especially when he was out so late & I was worried. I'll admit the lap dance thing really freaked me out too. He said that the guys said they have done that before, & their wives don't care as long as they come home to them. They said, "It's not a big deal. We don't mess around on our wives, we just look." Yeah, except the women they look at are almost nude & dance in a very sleazy sexual way, & alcohol is involved which can sometimes make men act differently than they normally would. <P>My 1st husband is an alcoholic & I spent many nights waiting for him to come home, not knowing where he was out drinking. He got 2 DWI's when we were married. So I know my knee-jerk reaction to this came from my unhappy past, but I still think happily married men don't belong in a topless bar, unless their wives think it's okay.<P>I go to happy hour once in a while, when my busy working mom schedule is flexible, but the gals & I would never start bar-hopping all night without any consideration for our husbands. Maybe I'm jealous cause it seems that men (fathers) don't have as many resposibilities as women (mothers) do. <P>My husband is very sorry for hurting my feelings & feels guilty for giving in to peer pressure & not being assertive. He swears it won't happen again, & I believe him.<P>IS IT JUST ME - or am I just being unrealistic? I just know how I feel & I can't change that.<P>I appreciate any feedback. Thanks for listening - or, reading!<P>

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Thanks Holly! I feel better about everything today & have resolved to put it behind me. Now if I can just be comfortable the next time I'm around those guys. My husband is being very sweet & apologetic, & I have apologized for going ballistic & not handling the situation in a better manner. Live & learn, right! And we did read the Policy of Joint Agreement & have printed off several other interesting topics. I think the Marriage Builders news letter will be informative. Take care.

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Sounds like you guys are getting it right. You have to remember that men act that way, and I can say from bad experiences, because they are taught that it is OK. It isnt because they are MEN! It is because we are trained to be MEN! You have given him the law and he knows where it stands. Now you have to trust him and ensure that he is living by that law because he doesnt want to hurt you, not because he is afraid of your reaction. Talk about that. Keep those lines of communication open. I have been in the same situation as he was and trust me, that need to conform and keep your friends happy is a strong one. I am certain that it probably happened the way he said it. It sounds familiar.<P>I am happy to hear that you are working things out. The positive thing out of all this is that you have found this site and the information here. Dont take your marriage for granted and make sure you use the information here. There is nothing more important than stopping further conflict before it starts.<P>Matt


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