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#55213 01/31/00 05:18 AM
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After 10 years of marriage I can no longer please or satisfy her. She is who I want, truly. But I cannot seem to keep her happy or to see the pain she's causing me.<P>Tonight I told her she needed to make the decision about if she's in this relationship 100% emotionally and physically. She want's to talk to others on the phone...knowing it hurts me. I want to tell her all...ALL...I do everyday. I want and have shared some pretty deep stuff. But seems even expressing some of those things doesn't help. She's lied to me consistently...yet I hold on. yes, I've taken extremes to see if she was telling the truth...but it was because I wanted to know the truth. <P>I'm hurting here...and thoughts from anyone?

#55214 02/01/00 01:29 AM
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The #1 reason couples have difficulty making each other happy is that they each have different ideas about what it takes to be happy. Men tend to have different needs than women, but, not realizing that, men try their best to fulfill their wives' needs by providing more of what they think is valuable. For example, many women have a strong need for affection. Many men have a strong need for recreational companionship. If a man wants to make a woman happy, he tries to do what he thinks causes happiness, not realizing that what fulfills his needs might not fulfill hers. So, he gives her all the recreational companionship she can handle, but it does no good. Why not? Because all the recreational companionship doesn't fulfill her need for affection, and nothing but affection will fulfill that need.<P>It sounds like you both need to take the Emotional Needs questionnaire and use Dr. Harley's book His Needs, Her Needs to learn to make each other happy.<P>As for her phone conversations, to whom is she talking? Friends, relatives, exes? Why does it cause you so much pain? Giving 100% to your relationship shouldn't mean she can't talk to other people on the phone. It sounds like you want 100% of her time and attention, and that's not realistic. If men with whom she's had a relationship or men in whom she's possibly interested that she's talking to, that's different, but otherwise, why do her phone conversations hurt you?<p>[This message has been edited by younglove (edited January 31, 2000).]

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We're currently apart, due to work. Been gone for 10 months and have 2 more to go. So meeting alot of each others needs is impossilbe. I did go back for our anniversary and also for Thanksgiving. Both times were great. We went to a marriage encounter during the trip for our anniversary and we made some serious headway. But now seems like what we learned there isn't helping.<P>Anyway, she claims that she is talking to people just as friends...mostly. She's admitted to having phone sex. I know all about her online activities and that is why I don't want her to talk to ANYONE on the phone. Of course I can't stop her...she's an adult. But if she can't see that it's hurting me...and seriously taking tokens from my bank, what can I do?<P>We go round and round about all this. When things seem fine, she does something else to make things worse again.<P>: (


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