Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#58859 07/22/03 04:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2
V
Junior Member
Junior Member
V Offline
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2
Our marriage has not been stable for the last few years. My husband believes that he has made alot of sacrifices but had little returned. We have a son of four. We argue and then withdraw and don't know how to resolve arguments/conflicts. When I think we have come to a compromise my husband then tells me that he is yielding to me. The latest conflict concerns a bonus that he received, I said he deserved to spend it on himself (without thinking it through) since he had nver done this with other bonuses. He took the ball and ran. He arranged to test drive a sports car. When I heard this I said we needed to discuss it. I do not want my son being a passenger in a sports car. I believe they are too dangerous. He hit the roof and said some hurtful things to me which made me upset and angry. I see no resolution to this. He is pretty determined to justify why he should get this. But it means going into debt since the bonus doesn't cover the full price. And car insurance goes up. If we keep his current car because sometimes he shares in driving our son around it means the sports car is recreational. It seems to be a way to part ua as a family. And how can I justify my talks on wants vs. needs to my son and trying to teach him no to be materialistic in such a setting?
I'm so miserable and I am having trouble sleeping.

#58860 07/22/03 10:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 179
J
Member
Member
J Offline
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 179
verity,

Could you suggest a compromise that he will buy a sports car that doesn't require a loan? Maybe a used one? That way, he could satisfy his desire for a sports car without putting the family in more debt and he could afford to keep the car he already has so that you would feel better about him driving with your child in the car. Maybe the bonus isn't big enough for that either, but just a thought. You might even suggest that he think about a used car even if it does still require a loan. At least the debt is smaller with a used car than a new one. Or is he already looking at used and it's still too pricey?

#58861 07/23/03 04:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 482
Q
Member
Member
Q Offline
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 482
Dear Verity,

Your concerns about auto safety are probably justified to some extent. There is a range of differences in the safety of autos, and the Insurance Institute for Highway safety puts out the results of crash tests, comparing various models in various classes. Your public Library should have some recent and past magazines that describe various crash tests, and rank ordering of various models.

There are so many models of cars these days, that if the two of you take some time to look around, you might find something you can agree upon. Personally, I put expensive tires on my cars, and they are now all sports cars. I like Michelin X-1 Dura Black. They stop in the rain better than other tires, (22 Feet), and handle well on dry pavement. Actual sports cars are diappointed when I go around the corners right beside them.

If you read the rules on negotiating in the articles, it recommends that you think of a thoughtful approach, then sit down at a quiet time when all parties can be thoughtful and calm.

It does not sound like you have done much homework on the subject of auto safety. Some convertibles have roll bars, and some have seats that are low, with the trunk in a realtively high position. A four year old in a car seat or with a seat belt should do fine in a roll-over in most convertibles. Sports cars are less likely to roll over than other cars, as they have a low center of gravity. The greater danger for rollovers is from SUV's, as they have a high center of gravity.

But, if your marriage has other issues, the issue of a sports car may have other symbolism, that may come up for you, upon reflection and discussion. How you make family decisions is important for both of you to feel comfortable.

I am applying the policy of POJA to a new clothes drier. Our old drier is broken, and there are new, larger capacity diers now available. I think this is the time to upgrade, and my wife feels we should either repair the one we have, or buy a used one. There will not likely be a new, large capacity drier available, used. I am hanging up the clothes to dry on plastic hangers, and saving on electricty. My wife pitches in, but she stacks the clothers several deep on the hanger, so they don't actually dry, until I spread them out.

Most crashes with sports cars do not involve rollovers, and prayers can provide a measure of protection. I like to envison a pyramid from the sky providing protection for myself, or others. Can you come up with some vision of safety that will work for you to go to sleep?

Would a luxury sedan work for your husband? Since there are low interest car loans available, going into debt for a good investment does not seem unwise. My wife is blind to see any value of investment except for the dollars being spent. An auto that will have reduced service needs for an extended period of time needs to be credited for reduced repairs. An auto that brings respect and signals success may draw others who are success oriented to assist, and trust, your husband further. This is a little intangible, but the value of increased trustworthiness, needs to be entered into the equation.

Once I borrowed a Mercedes Convertible, sleek low sports car, from a car dealer, and took my wife out to lunch. I thought it would be a nice treat for her. Ordinariy I drive a work van. My wife's co-workeres asked the question, why is your husband driving a Mercedes, and you are driving a Plymouth? You should get a better car like he has. Why doesn't your husband let you drive the Mercedes sometimes? Whatever your good intentions, it can always be viewed as wrong.

Jenateare's idea of a used car is probably a lot smarter today, than it used to be. With Carfax lemon check, and model searches, you can get just about anything you want, in any color you want.

What is more important, is for you and your husband to have some good positive communication, and find ways to smoothly incorporate both your ideas.

Today, my wife got the idea that when I put out folding tables to do my work, that I can fold the tables back up, and interrupt my work, if my wife needs that section of the house. I bought the folding tables and stacking chairs some 8 months ago and have been using them off and on. Today, the sun finally shone through the clouds, at least briefly, that a folding table does not have to remain standing, if a need arises for my wife to use the room.

Best wishes,

Quipper,
Married 28 years and still struggling.


Moderated by  Fordude 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 476 guests, and 98 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
IO Games, IronMaverick, Gregory Robinson, Limkao, Emily01
72,037 Registered Users
Latest Posts
Three Times A Charm
by Vallation - 07/24/25 11:54 PM
How important is it to get the whole story?
by still seeking - 07/24/25 01:29 AM
Annulment reconsideration help
by abrrba - 07/21/25 03:05 PM
Help: I Don't Like Being Around My Wife
by abrrba - 07/21/25 03:01 PM
Following Ex-Wifes Nursing Schedule?
by Roger Beach - 07/16/25 04:21 AM
My wife wants a separation
by Roger Beach - 07/16/25 04:20 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics133,625
Posts2,323,524
Members72,038
Most Online6,102
Jul 3rd, 2025
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 2025, Marriage Builders, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0