Dear BBB<BR>Just mention to him that you heard from a man who has been married for >25 years, and I found some light for my marriage in Harley's books. He is much fairer for men than the therapists that I have seen. As far as I can tell, the majority are EVIL! They play so much to the idea of "take care of yourself" and that is so exclusively self centered. Many of the others are concerned about "co-dependency" if you want to give to the marriage to save it. Men must be EXTREMELY wary when going to a counselor-especially couple counseling. For thousands of years, men have been bigger, stronger, noisier--all skills that are not needed or respected, since the sabre-toothed tigers are not now a daily threat.<BR>I come from a family of pretty noisy, borderline abusive guys, and I always dedicated myself to not going anywhere that line. But I was too close to it for her. And to add to the grief, she grew up in a women only household and had NO experience addressing conflict or disagreement. So some bad stuff festered for many years. And I was too dumb to figure it out. THE COUNSELING OF THE LAST YEAR DID NOT HELP. Only my exposure to Harley did. I really appreciate his honesty in saying that the field had a dreadful record of saving marriages and he sought to do better. <BR>So, turn on your giver. Mention that you are interested in "meeting his needs" to him--ask him to explain them. You trust that he loves you, but gets too angry and doesn't know how it hurts you. Use the power of that poorly expressed love. A derailed locomotive still has a lot of power. Good luck in getting things on track!<BR>