Ken, i don't know if this helps you, but before I started taking porzac I didn't have enough self worth to think that anyone else would be interested in me. If I would have gone to a bar I would have been depressed that I wasn't worthy of anyone...but I suppose she could be depressed and still have these thoughts---I never did. I think almost EVERYONE should go to therapy [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com] . I wish I coud to afford to now, it just keeps things in perspective to have a third party evaluate things. Going to a therapist doesn't mean you are crazy---it keep you from GOING CRAZY. Good luck