Ex has finally admitted that he is "seeing" ow now, but only since our divorce. Yeah, right! She has only been around for the last year.<P>Since my son is very confused and has started to lie a lot, I told ex he needed to quit lying to our son and either admit that he is with ow or keep her away when the kids visit. <P>It is nearly impossible to teach a kid you shouldn't lie when one parent is constantly lying to the child and basically teaching him it is okay. <P>My ex said that he thought we had agreed to not let the children know about who we were dating unless we were serious. <P>First of all, there was no agreement but I stated that I didn't feel the kids needed to be burdened with such things unless it was serious. <P>Second, ex ruined that a year ago when he left the family for ow. Not to mention forcing the kids to go places with her and be around her.<P>Finally, I never ever said he should lie to cover it up if the kids asked. But then again why should the kids ask if they didn't already "see" that they were together.<P>Just another effect of infidelity.

tulip,<P>my ex met up with his old high school freind, that in time we socialized with, her and her H!!!! <P>my (now 12ye old) then 10 yr old, daughter met her and her family as well, being we had them over for a barbaque and went out to dinner a few times.. <P>I knew the first night out, she was not happy with her marriage, and was going to go after my ex.. <P>well thats what happened in a nut shell.. but!!! she is still married... (as far as I know), and I told my ex, after he left, there is a child here that is at an age that is very vulnerable, and not to screw her head up with this crap.. <P>as far as I know he has abliaged me.. my daughter knows I suspected this, and also knows that this is his plan.. (telling me he wanted to persue, this (I call her) perdue!!!<P>she swares up and down, they never see her, but knows when he is on the phone with her, while they laugh and giggle with each other.. so I accomplished half the job.. <P>any way.. when I first met my ex, he was living with some one, and was supposidly unhappy and wanted out.. so I was his side kick back then.. he ad a son from his first marraige and did the same thing to him, he is now doing to my daughter... his ex wife did not agree with some things he did with his son, but guess what.. you have no more say.. it is extremely hard to stop any of this hardship.. and the kids eventually grow up and learn to deal with things.. and they will also realize in time who is right and wrong.. it is the way of the world.. sorry to say.. society excepts this vicousness and we loose no matter what...<P>all we can do is take care of oour kids the best *WE* can.. and pray they grow older and wiser...!!!!I have a teen.. and it is heart breaking this is happening to her at this age.. it *will* effect her, in a big way.. but I know *I* am at least a good person morally.. and will guild her the best I can..<P>you take care.. hope everything all works out for you and the kids.. <P>AV<P><BR>