Barrington,<P>unfortunatly I didn`t find this site until it was way too late...I becameeven more bitter, since he can`t even *act* civilized, for our daughters sake.. she is 12 and at a very vulnerable age.. and I have written him many letters (being he won`t talk to me) asking him to do at least that much for her sake.. with no reguard for her feeling about it at all..<P>I was/am angry.. and voiced my anger, (LB`ed alot) for what he did to us all, and how he did it.. because of course all affairs are all about sneaking around, but my ex did it in our faces.. <P>my daughter and I knew this woman and her H, before he left me.. It was/now is an old, newly rekindled freindship from his high school days.. this OW came into our lives at a very opporutne time, when we were having our problems, picked up on it, and started her scheme to win my ex over, and won.. <P>I did everything I could think of or do to resolve things.. but to no avail.. and I have to admit, the pain is not much better for me yet.. I am still devastated, and hurt that eventhough I said some horrible things, as he did to me too.. he has lost all his compassion.. he held in his ill feelings towards me, and built up a wall of his recentments, for so long.. (to him) it was too late.<P>I feel for you.. I am an old timer here, I lurk mostly.. but your post touched my heart, because I know exactly what you are feeling and going through right now..<P>I (very stupidly) still love my ex.. and he tossed away all the hopes and dreams I thought were going to be all of ours forever..<P>this is by far the most painful thing I have everhad to endure.. and I am sending you a cyber {{HUG}}.. sorry but it is the best I can do for you right now.. <P>I know how hard this is.. but try and keep up your spirits, and don`t over analize eerything that happens, or imagine what he is doing or thinking.. no one here has telepathy.. and it is impossible to know what they are thinking.. <P>It`show they see you RE-ACT.. is what they go by.. stay calm, and (I know it is hard) but collected in your thoughts, re-actions.. and time will ease some of this pain.. he will see you for who you were/are, and perhaps regain the strength and confidence in the two of you again.. <P>you take care of you, and watch how he sees that your doing just fine with or with out him, and you *will* see a change.. try it.. it does work, (in most cases)<P>take care....AV