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#68050 01/14/99 12:29 AM
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I just want to know your feelings on why men leave women?

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Because they're more immature, they want the excitement all the time, the thrill of "the chase", the grass is always greener syndrome, they're selfish, they often want to meet their own needs, afraid of committment, sex, sex, sex, and "not feeling anything any more". Bulls**t. <br> Sorry, i've been having a rough life for about a month. will it ever end?

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<br>Why do men leave? I was about to just recently, but decided to give it another shot. We aren't married yet, but are thinking in that direction. <p>The last time I left a long-term relationship about seven years ago because of communication/sex difficulties. I brought the woman with me on vacation and was the envy of my friends. Boy was she pretty blah blah blah. <p>What I negated to tell my friends was that she was crappy in bed and to her sex was a chore and she complained a lot in the house. I knew this would never work out.<p>My current lady friend is great in bed and I have no complaints in that department. I'm 41 and she is 33. She is kind to me and we do get along as well as one can expect. I've thought about leaving her many times, but I do miss her when I am away. <p>But back to the question: Why do men leave? <p>1. Sex is no good.<p>2. Woman has gotten unattractive, ie, fat<br> <br>3. Have little or no common interest (my ladyfriend and I like moves, music and traveling so at least we've got something). <p>These are my main reasons. Selfish? That's debatable. <p>Immature? I don't think so. I didn't get married at a young age because it was obivous the relationship wouldn't work out.<br>

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hey, Hey, HEY.... I detect male bashing! [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com]<p>OK, OK, so maybe you're entitled, especially if the male in your life has been acting like an anal orifice lately.<p>About your points though:<p>'They're more immature': Actually, I'm feeling a little TOO mature (mid-life crisis, maybe?)<br>'Want the excitement all the time': No, but once in awhile would be nice.<br>'The thrill of "the chase": I'm too tired to chase.<br>'The grass is always greener': Only over a septic tank. (from Erma Bombeck)<br>'They're selfish': Everyone's Taker is selfish.<br>'Want to meet their own needs': Ditto above.<br>'Afraid of committment': I'd rather not say.<br>'Sex, sex, sex': Yeah, what's your point?<br>'Not feeling anything any more': It helps to lose the 'raincoat'.<br>'Bulls**t': Ain't it the truth? <p>A joke you might like:<p>God: Adam, I've got good news and bad news.<br>Adam: What's the good news?<br>God: I've given you a brain, and a penis.<br>Adam: What's the bad news?<br>God: You've only got enough blood to use one at a time!<p>Have a better day today! [Linked Image from marriagebuilders.com]

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Doug,<p>This joke (God to Adam)is a major revelation for me. I'd always wondered why, after sex, I awoke naked and with no memory - like an American werewolf in London. Now I know the brain was not in use. Thanks for the missing piece to that puzzle. I can go on with life now.

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probably for the same reason women leave men......and many do....( I really don't think men have the corner on this) I think a better question may be when does any one person leave another when they have made the commitment to another for life....now if I could find that answer I would no longer be separated. <p>I'll keep searching tho....Doug loved the joke....!!!!!<p>Kathy

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Men leave women.<br>Women leave men.<p>What's the difference? Its one person leaves the other.<p>Why? I think you'll find a BIG part of the answer if you look at our society today vs. the society of...say the 50's. As a society, we used mean forever when we said our vows, we use to have friends, know our neighbors, spend time with the kids. Kids used to play outside with their friends, be able to walk to school without being abducted, be fed, bathed, and raised by their parents (not daycare). Life WAS happy and good.<p>Now we rush off to work at 6am, dropping our kids at some daycare, spend 12 hours either commuting to work or working, and pick our kids up sometime later. Say, who IS raising our kids??? No one knows their neighbors, spends time with them, or even bothers to say hello when a new neighbor moves in next door. <br>Husbands and wives both see greener pastures and are more interested in that than maintaining their marriage (remember...the marriage use to be just as good or you wouldn't have gotten married in the first place) and find out that the new love is no better than the old spouse. Too late...they've already done the damage! <p>I'm 24 and my husband is 28. We are technically a part of this "me" generation, but neither of us long for the things that make up the me generation. We are happy spending time together (even if its only a rented movie on the couch). We want to know our neighbors (we just moved into our first house Saturday) and plan on knocking on their doors this weekend. We are taking huge steps towards simplifying our lives so we CAN spend more time together, so we can live off of one income, so we can raise our own kids. Our goals (and we are half there) are for me to be a homemaker or work during school hours only and my husband to work close to home or at home. We want to be a family and we meant our vows and we have promised (for real) that divorce is NOT a word in our vocabulary. Regardless of what happens, that is NOT an option. We've had major problems in our marriage already but we found a way to work it out. Each day is just another day to work together rather than against each other.<p>When you come down to the point, divorce is a result of one of two things:<p>1) marrying too early or the wrong person due to failure of the couple really considering the consequences of a lifelong commitment<br>2) being selfish and giving up and opting for the easy way out.<br>

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Forever is a mighty long time and no one knows what the future will bring.<p>Divorce may not be in your voc., but it certainly may pop-up into your lives....<p>

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i agree with john. i no longer believe in storybook romances. my marriage is just about gone after nine years, and we also vowed that we would never divorce. my H now says that that "vow" is the only thing that kept him "in" the marriage this long (over nine years). he's left & wants a divorce, even though he hasn't actually said the "D" word. it's very clear that he was "comfortable" with us, but also very unhappy.<p>sorry for my initial post....boy, i must have been having one of those days!!!

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People leave People for many reasons but the one that stands out so clear to me is that at some point the unmet needs of both spouses makes it impossible for one spouse to continue on. Why don't they buckle down and work things out. they were not Raised that way. Take a long look at the spouse's family and the vaules they live by. Do they confront conflict's. Do they stay in an unpleasent sit. and give athe good fight or do they throw up their hands and walk away. Adults still follow their childhood programing. They may not see it but they do. If the spouse comes from a broken home there is a much greater chance they will opt for diviorce when faced with problems. Does the mother and father enable their child to run away from problems or do they stand beside the child until the child overcomes the problem. To those out there wonder how? why? look no farther then their family for your answers. Sure society has some blame but it is the parents who are really to blame and their parents ect.ect. Divorce really needs to be made tougher to grant. The act of marraige needs to be harder to get. People need to be taught right from wrong.

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Rusty,<br>Hello again on a different topic. I have to disagree with one point and offer another perspective. I don't think we're doomed to repeat our parent's past. We do have to be aware and cautious, though. My parents are both on their 3rd marriages (not to each other). I have seen the pain that divorce has caused, and have been on many an airplane trying to see everyone at the holidays. This has strengthened my resolve to make my marriage a good one.<p>Sure at times I think it would be easier to give up, but I will not. When we went to pre-marital counceling as required by the church, the minister said something that I will always remember: when you enter into a marriage, there is no back door. You are in it to stay, and you must work out your differences. I resolve to follow this. Too bad we all don't.


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