On the way home from the gym this morning my S told me that daddy said that he is divorcing me because he feels he can't be himself around me....what is up with that! I never asked him to change a thing about himself. Did I like everything he did no did I accept it yes! He was the one who told me I needed counseling to get over him and to see what an [censored] he was. I told him I already knew what an [censored] he was but I loved him anyway...his response, well maybe you should have asked me to change. Truth be known that man has such a fantasy about himself that he will never be that person. He always wants immediate gratification and is unwilling to put in the hard work it takes to achieve change. <P>He also told me today that he was going overseas to see OW...I told him I already knew that. Well of course he can be himself with her she is young no kids and right now he has no obligation to support her, just buy her gifts to make himself feel good! They are free to do whatever whenever. Really burns me up!!!!! <P>What really makes me mad about the timing of this trip is that it means he won't see his kids for 2 months!!!! Now I am asking you is this a bit if selfish behavior or what? I knew he would be a good dad to them as long as it didn't interfer with him being himself!! What a selfish man. Days like today I can't even believe I feel in love with him. <P>Well he just pulled into the driveway to pick up kids. Better go!!!

Dear Hope,<P>Yuck!!!! Dumping excuses on kids. Real fog tactic. Hon, strengthen your child. Don't panic, kids know how to tell the truth. Just give them the mom support that you have done so well. <P>You go do something good for yourself this weekend OK?!?!?!<P>L.

Hopeless,<BR>i dont know how old your son is, but kids learn what is really going on quick. You may try asking him what he thinks about it? you maybe surprised the honesty that intelligents that kids really have.<BR>But i dont have any kids, so i probally need to shut up LOL<BR>But just keep some hope in your heart that things will get better.<BR><P>------------------<BR>Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want.

What a [censored]!!!! Sorry if that offends you but I can't stand these self-centered people who put their lustful desires in front of the NEEDS of their children.<P>You'll be in my prayers.<P>Love, Bill<P>------------------<BR>-There are none so blind as those who refuse to see!-

Well to top it all off he told me just now that he had filed for the D. I will be served in the next two weeks!!!<P>He made sure today that I understood that there would be no chance of reconciliation that he couldn't be happy with me.<BR>Thanks, I really needed to hear that one. Truth be known I have very little emotion left for this man. This whole process has really shown me what type of person he has become and will continue to be. I want no part of that man. <P>Even though he is flying to Norway to see OW he tells me she is not the reason for the D. He is going to see her to see if they have a future or to get closure. BLECK!! He also said that if things were to work btwn them it would be a long haul and he wouldn't be able to move there for 6 or 7 years. Just when the kids would be 12 and 13...great timing huh? Please allow me...WHAT AN A$$!!!<P>I said well, if it wasn't her maybe it was the girl in California or the girl from Germany on ICQ or the girl in ST. Louis.....I told him that these were all affairs...call them what you like he said but they were not affairs I just enjoyed their company maybe. <P>He thinks that all the books I read and this web site are all a bunch of crap written by people in my situation to make themselves feel good. Those people have no clue he said.<P>Now do you see why I can say that I have very little emotion left for this thing!!<P>Thanks for listening!<P>I said if it was not her then maybe it was the girl in<P><BR>

Hey there fellow Zonie! <P>Sorry to hear your STBX is being such an idiotic lump of sh*t. Although maybe he has a point...I mean, doesn't every guy in his 30's who is married with children have lots in common with Norwegian teenagers??? <P>Or look at it this way: This Norwegian girl will have 6 or 7 years to figure out that this guy is a schmuck...think she can handle it? Or maybe he could get stuck outside during the cold winter in Norway and his p***s will freeze and fall off?!<P>Or maybe his Scandinavian honey has been playing him all along, and her boyfriend named Sven will "go viking" on your hapless H...wouldn't THAT be fun?<P>Or maybe he'll slip and fall into a fjord...just trying to think positive!

hopeless<P>I too am so disgusted with my STBX (first time I wrote that) that I am seeing side of him that is horrible. I posted my own thread on his recent selfish behavior.<P>I don't want to reconcile with him today. He is a man I have no respect for anymore. He isn't even a man. He is a boy pretending to be a man. He is also mid thirties with the kids. Of course life without kids around every singel second if different. Kids take alot of attention, time and need. But then so do marriages. I guess we all sometimes have to learn the hard way.<P>I am having fun this weekend. Want to come visit?<P>hopelessmom

Pfffffffttt...Whadda loser, wiener-head! Good riddance. Can't you help him get off to Norway any sooner?<P>Say ya,<BR>Nell

Thanks everyone,<P><B>CJack</B>you make me laugh!!! Doubt she will get anything figured out. She can't even get it figured out that he CHEATED on his wife and is leaving her and his children. Not very bright to begin with IMHO!!<P><B>Hopelessmom</B> wish I could hope right out and have fun this weekend. I am very tempted to just go to Happy Hour by myself just to get out for awhile!!<P><B>Nell</B>, wish he would leave tomorrow!! And never come back!!!!<P>