H just dropped off the kids, they cried, I wouldn't let him put them to bed like they wanted. He told me he wants more stuff out of house. why won't I work with him on this. I can see how bitter you are.<P>I didn't do anything but say goodnight. I just nodded my head in regards to him getting his "stuff"<P>He just called and left a message and told me what I was doing was effecting the children. If he needed to call the police and get a court order to get his stuff he would and why am I making this so difficult. You are just being EVIL.<P>WHAT! I am now evil. My head is spinning around so fast I don't know whether to laugh or cry. MY WHOLE LIFE SUCKS RIGHT NOW AND I AM EVIL. <P>Does anybody else get called ugly names? What happened to my white picket fence life. POOOF! it is gone and now I am evil. <P>He wants me to call him back. Why is my WS such a lunatic? This Fog crap is for the birds. <P>I have to go cry now.<P>Hopelessmom

Dear Hope,<P>You are NOT evil. Consider the source, his mind has been taken over by ALIENS. Feel better? May be not completely so go ahead and cry. <P>Threats and more threats seem to be the way of the WS with the OW's influence. If this is a threat and you have not done anything wrong, let him go ahead and make good on it. <P>Why were the children crying? I thought it is pretty late out your way and the kids are tired. It might be too much to talk about now, maybe later if you'd like. <P>In the meantime, please think about our words and how we view you. You are a caring mother and wife. Who currently is not being properly appreciated by her H. <P>You can call upon the LB Fairie for some assistance if it will help. She hails from Singapore so it may take a couple of hours. Let me know if you need help quicker than that, I might be able to send an emergency cable to her. <P>Take Care, <BR>L.<BR>

Duplicate post. <P>Sorry,<BR>L.<P><p>[This message has been edited by Orchid (edited May 20, 2001).]

Yep, they hate the guilt so they make us evil. Makes it easier to justify leaving. Besides he was probably not happy that you went out and enjoyed yourself this weekend. Don't you know you are supposed to be home feeling miserable?<P>During discussions about alimony and CS this weekend I was told by STBX that he really has seen the true me in the past few weeks. Meaning a greedy b****h! Why? Because I won't cave into his his every demand and do things his way. I am standing firm on the amount I need per month and he doesn't seem to like it very much.<P>Hope you feel better after your cry.<P>Take Care. Good Luck this week with the new atty. You have a lot to deal with right now, stay strong my dear!!<P>

<P>You are not evil, they seem to have a need to put as much on us as they can. I have been called many things, and she even went to family and said these things and told lies about me, even said I was having an affair. they will do anything to justify what they are doing. Now I am interfereing with the love of her life, I am making her miserable, and turning everyone against her. the funny thing is I have not said one word to anyone about her, I have not said on bad thing. Everything they seem to think and believe is in there head and not neccessarily a fact. Just keep moving forward and take care of yourself, there is not much you can do for him. Listen to this, my ex got court order to get her things and came with a cop, the order she got said that I had to leave her stuff on porch, thats what she asked for, when she came she cused an and ranted how she wasn't even aloud in her house and how she would never do anything so dirty to me, lots of laughs here. She would only leave me for another man but that is ok gshhhhhhh. where are there minds LOL.

well, he couldn't leave me alone for the rest of the night.<P>He called back, again, i didn't answer. He was crying, and said he was sorry for calling me crying but all this was hard on him too. <P>I didn't call him back. He has a lot of problems and I know that I can't help him. I feel sorry for him because I don't think he knows what to do, he is just doing what other people advise him to do to try and "break" me. I really feel that he is a lost soul and now he is becoming desperate.<P>I have done nothing to hurt him. The only thing I have done is to hire an attorney and not agreee to mediation with him at this time. His behavior gets worse and worse and now I really see no reason to mediate with him.<P>When power goes out on tues, I hope he cries and cries. I hope the fact that "he did this" To his children and me, will eat him from the inside. I can't reason with him, talk to him, or make him understand anything. He has to do and hopefully God will try to work on him also. <P>Kids crying, got to go.<P>Hopelessmom