Cristalle........<P> Where the heck did you get the idea he was an on line love. Boy are you wrong. Don't do on line romance dear. And if you don't believe in fate you must not believe in God. And second what gives you the right to ask what I am still doing here? And 3rd my person is real life person here ya know. And yes he was brought to me by fate and God. And yes my marriage is ending. Had for along time been ended. Any other ? Ane last but not least I do love him very much. And he does me too. So hope that answers your rude ? to me.

Sorry for assuming your lover was found online. Your eager support of inloveonline put that idea in my head.<P>If I don't believe in fate, I don't believe in God? That's a new one on me. I didn't know God brought people fateful illicit lovers when their marriages weren't working out.

God did not bring another into your life to end your relatiosnhip with your husband. You both stood up in front of God and swore to Him to remain married. I'm not saying you should stay married. Sometimes it doesn't work out. If you have tried everything you can to save the relationship, then perhaps it is time to bail. But don't claim God wants you to be happy at someone elses expense.<P>------------------<BR>Prayers & God Bless!<BR>Chris<BR>For relationship info check out <A HREF="http://www.pcisys.net/~chriscal1/resources.html" TARGET=_blank>www.pcisys.net/~chriscal1/resources.html</A>

Chris.........<P> My relationship was ended before I meet him. So hope that makes all you feel better. But God wants us happy. Time to move on and be happy for me once again. We are filing so hope that makes everybody feel better to. Since you all keep cutting me down about my marriage. it has been over. Cannot be saved. You can only try for so long. Hope that ease all of you who keep cutting me down because I have found someone to love.

Wonder,<BR>God said that there would be no more pain after judgement day which is yet to come. Your unhappiness will continue to be until that day comes. You, as Chris stated, vowed to God and your H that you would stay married until death you do part. Now if you were unequally yoked, that is another story. Please don't try to justify your actions on happiness. God wants you to have joy which is not situational as is happiness. Happiness has and always will be situational. You were never always happy with your H even when you were dating. Dr. Harley and other learned men have done studies to show that we all feel that way. Happiness is always temporary. Joy is eternal and can only be found in God.<P>------------------<BR>God Bless,<BR>Rob<P><BR>

We aren't cutting you down about your marriage. You say your relationship was ended before you met him. But your still married. Sounds like a relationship to me!<P>No, your filing does not make us feel better. If you had been able to make it work, that would have made us feel better. But since you decided it couldn't work out, then I wish you all the best. Hopefully you have learned something from your marriage to make this new relationship work. <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Hope that ease all of you who keep cutting me down because I have found someone to love.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Didn't you have someone to love when you found your husband? No need to answer. Just something to think about.

To all that wrote your last respones at the end of this one. You all make it seem like its wrong to be happy. Yeh till death do you part. Well I am not staying in a marriage till I die where I am unhappy. What a waste of life when its so short anyways. My life is worth living and being happy is part of it. That is what life is about not saddness everyday for 2 years. So I am done explaining my happiness to all of you. You wanted to chase me out ya did a great job at it. Hope it makes you all happy. Cause right now I don't care anymore what any of you think of me. Its my life to live. And I am finally happy again. So hope this makes all of you feel better. I don't regret how I feel about this man i love not for one min. If ask me you all are just to perfect for me to be here anyways.

Wonder:<P>Now you have discovered what I and many others have learned - there's a few people here who are unlovable. <P>Best of luck and God's blessings to you Miss WonderWoman. You were certainly kind to try and love these people, and wise enough to know it just isn't going to work. <p>[This message has been edited by KarmaGrrl (edited August 25, 1999).]

Karmagirl...........<P> Thank you for your support. I will be happy with him I do know that deep down. He already has made me feel alive again and loved. Like I said its ME that matters not those other people on here. Again thank you Karma.<BR> <BR>

Wonder,<BR>What I am saying is that happiness is always situational. If you weren't happy with your H, why did you marry him. My W says she is not happy. Yet, when I try to discuss it with her she can't define what makes her happy. I have come to the conclusion that she doesn't want happiness. She wants joy which is eternal. It feels much better than happiness because it is continual because it comes from having a deep relationship with God.<P>If you see someone as unlovable then you are passing judgement on that person. I have found that when we say such things we really are talking about ourselves because that is how we really see ourselves rather than the person to whom the accusation or assertion is directed.<BR>------------------<BR>God Bless,<BR>Rob<P><BR><p>[This message has been edited by professorg (edited August 26, 1999).]

Proffess.........<P> Well I hate to tell you this but through 14 years of marriage people change. So do relationships. You asked if I was unhappy why did I marry. Come on here I thought I was happy with him then. Must have been somewhat or I am hoping would have never married him. I am saying I am NOT HAPPY NOW with him anymore. He drank year after year enough abuse was enough. I want no more of that crap. I am different now then I was then. Might say a little older and wiser. I'm sorry but nobody can predict the furture. We can learn from our past and I have. Now I want out and getting out. Like you know if you will be happy another year from now. I know I will be cause will have closed this chapter of my life and started a new one with the one I am in love with now.

Wonder,<P>Just wondering, why are you on Marriage Builders if you are convinced you want out of your marriage? Aren't there more appropriate forums for you where you will get the support and thumbs up for divorcing your H? You are on a site filled with people trying everything to SAVE their marriages, and when they respond negatively to your plans to call it quits, you become angry and defensive. Do what you must, it's your decision and really nobody's business but yours, but I think you are in the wrong place if you're looking for pats on the back.<P>Good luck!

Imago...........<P> I was not looking for pats on the back. I don't need you people anymore. I am out of here. All I wanted was some support and all I got was cut down,put down,and degraded. Not eveyone in here can save there marriage like all you PERFECT people in here. Sorry I ever even came to this site. Tells me how cruel some people in this world really are. Have a great WONDERFUL married life all you perfect couples out there.

Wonder,<BR>God be with you. He loves you and wants nothing but the best for you. I am not convincecd that your leaving H for OM is going to solve your dilemma. You have a great deal of anger built up from somewhere. Your H has only caused the anger to become more intense. It shows in your posts. I can honestly say that I was not and still am not looking for my W to make me happy. That level of continual happiness can only be found in the Lord. No person regardless of how they make you feel right now can fill only what God can fill.<P>If I have come across as degrading you, I am sorry. It was my intent to present the truth that we all sometimes are incapable of seeing MYSELF included.<P>------------------<BR>God Bless,<BR>Rob<P><BR>