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I'm trying to figure out sex, and why people get in an uproar about it, and run around waving their arms and hollering, and everybody's mad at everybody else. It's because men can't tell sex from tennis. We can't help it. It's a character defect built into us, like tail fins on a fifty-seven T-Bird.<p>Yep. That's it. I've just solved the question of the ages. Right here. Contributions welcome.<p>Best I can tell, ninety-eight percent of women are mad because all men want is sex. (Actually we want other things too, like big-block engines, dogs, and really bad movies with lots of gratuitous violence.) On the other hand, men are ready to become monks. It's because they can't talk to a woman for five minutes on a bus before she wants commitment. To a woman commitment seems so obviously good that she can't see why he'd rather have pellagra. Which is what men think about sex. So the two glare at each other like two
possums with only one garbage can.<p>It's too bad. A lot of people end up being unhappy because of it.<p>The problem, it says here, is that to men sex is a primal drive that doesn't have much emotional content. It's just sex. It's like when you have
athlete's foot, you scratch it, but you don't have an emotional bond to it. Sure, a guy can commit to a woman, as evidenced by innumerable marriages that happen despite experience and common sense. Sex can have emotional importance to him with a woman he wants to keep. But he doesn't have a hard-wired connection between sex and commitment. To him they're separate
things, like jackhammers and Vienna sausages. You can have both at the same time, but you don't have to.<p>By contrast, for women, sex seems epoxied to a lot of emotional freight. A woman sees sex as a step toward commitment, as fifty years ago a man saw commitment as a step toward sex. When the man doesn't see the connection, she thinks he's just plain wrong-headed, and mean spirited, and a
nickel-plated sun*****.<p>Which brings us to tennis. (Bet you didn't see that coming.)<p>Men think of sex the way they think of tennis. Suppose I want to work off some energy. I call my buddy Ralph, and we meet at the courts, and have a
good time for a few sets -- sweat and grunt, twist our ankles, fall down and break things, and end up in a mild coma.<p>When we're through, he doesn't want me to marry him. When in fact I don't, he doesn't feel exploited. In fact, he feels deeply relieved.<p>That's how men look at sex. A man genuinely doesn't understand why he can't say to the young lady in the next cubicle, "Hey, Jane, what say we go to my place at lunch for a roll in the hay?" ("Fred -- you've got hay at your place?") He may like Jane, think she's bright and fun, have no slight desire to exploit, use, or degrade her. They may have been friends for years. But if he made what would seem to him a perfectly reasonable suggestion, she would explode and file at least a dozen lawsuits.<p>Yet he knows that she isn't opposed to sex, and isn't opposed to him. If he took her to three movies, so that the whiff of commitment hung heavy in the air, like methane over a summer swamp, she'd be worried if he didn't make
the suggestions So why not . . . ?<p>He doesn't get it.<p>The woman's lack of the tennis instinct, or the man's possession of it, complicates life for everyone. It ain't her fault. It ain't his fault. It's how we are.<p>To aggravate things, we're timed all wrong, like street lights in New Jersey. After a certain age, somewhere around thirty, a woman's interest in
commitment rises, while a man's declines -- just as a man's sex drive declines as hers rises. (Actually, sex may be a vast practical joke. If
there's a better explanation, I haven't heard it.) Guys who are single in their mid-thirties are frequently comfortable with bachelorhood or, having been raped in the divorce courts, attached to it at tenaciously as panicked barnacles. And so guys, not looking for marriage, go into relationships knowing that they are going to end miserably. <p>Three months, and the Marriage Monster raises is fanged head. It's as predictable as morning.<p>Somehow having a mate seems much more crucial to women than to men. A guy with a girlfriend may figure she's peaches, better than a competition yo-yo with extra strings. He may be proud of her and proud of himself for having her. If the Red Army attacked her, he'd leap in front of her like a spring-wound damned fool and die a pointless but gaudy death. (That too is built in.) But she will still be only a part of his world, along with
motorcycles, the job, great software, rock climbing, or drinking beer and talking dirty with other guys.<p>Maybe this is why men are happier than women with intermediate degrees of commitment. If Willie Bob starts dating Maggie Lou, and she's fun, he'll
just naturally keep on doing it. Left to himself, two years later or twenty,he would still be dating her, and be perfectly happy. His attitude is that if it works, why meddle with it? He doesn't see dating as having to Go Somewhere like an evicted tenant. Depending on how much company he really wants, he may figure seeing her three times a week, and being left alone the rest of the time, is just right. He isn't exploiting her. He's just happy as things are.<p>She won't see it this way, or at least not for long. It's not because there's anything wrong with her, or with women, or for that matter with men. We've just got different operating systems. What she sees as God's intended result of dating, so clearly right as not to be examined, he sees as at best an unnecessary complication, at worst as giving us title to his house. He asks the, to him, reasonable questions: "Gee, Maggie, what would be better if we got married? Would sex be better? Food? What's your point?" He's genuinely puzzled. She thinks he's being exploitative, that she has been had again, another five years wasted, men, the [censored].

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Whew! You were waxxing philosophical here. <p>I'm glad.<p>For a minute I thought you might be trying to tell me that I should/shouldn't be trying to put the move on one of the vienna sausage toting men jackhammering out a big chunk of the building I work in. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]

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Ummm Ronnb,<p>Honest, no offense intended Hon, but if you're trying to wooe or seduce us or any other females with this passionate, intimate and very romantical acumen, I think you've missed the mark. lol<p>Sweat?... Grunt? ... Work off energy? Scratch your athletes foot????<p>Jeeez!<p>Jo

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Nice theory, but I've never bought into the biology thing... Until women are encouraged to have as much casual sex as men are encouraged to have--without consequence or being considered a sl*t--then men will just have to deal with jumping through hoops in order to get sex. If you've ever called a woman a "sl*t" or "easy" who has had more partners than you, then you get to deal with not getting any, or at least not getting as much as you want. so sorry.... [img]images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0[/img]

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I love fear (sex), fear of the unknown is what makes me a man. I love it when the hair on the back of my neck rises. I backpacked up and down the app trail and I ran into over 18 bears in my life some so close I could smell them. And you know what they are as afraid of me as I was of them. So we had a great time when my fear turned into trust. I trusted them not to eat me, and they trusted me not to shoot them. I do mean close within 5 feet. I have also been charged by one bear that wanted to be a big boy and I just yelled at him and we sat down and had coffee after that. I went back packing in the winter once by myself to just live through it. It was 45 deg below zero and i was the best time I ever had in my life. I found true piece away from the rat
race I found out who I was at that time. <p>I love bears and sex and women not in that order. But maybe the bears like it.

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