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<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by WhenIfindthetime: <strong>Nina,<p>I am sorry if i offended any teachers, my anger came from a disagreement/argument with the math teacher to whom i used to be married last night. Again, the topic was reality, if you follow my recent Math post, you will see the problem into which i ran.<p>although not all teachers are created equal, i have on good, third party, independent doctorate level sources, both at graduate school, and at her school, that an oocupational hazard to the high level teaching career is:<p>1) that after moving kids from the same point A to the same Point B every year, year after year, that one believes that the historical method is the only way that the world works, and needs not to be improved/changed, etc.<p>2) that the total control over the classroom environment is so seductive that it is an occupational hazard that leads to believing that one can control much larger aspects of the world outside the classroom in the same manner.<p>3) the rest of the world progresses by continuing to move to the next point continually, or the job/competition will take it over. The real world does not stop at Point B.<p>4) there is a very thick grey line over the responsibility for the grades. Is the teacher or the student responsible for the grade? if the teacher assumes the kid, there is little incentive to improve the teaching methods.<p>5) the people that talked to me said that the concept that "We teach the best way to our students." is so ingrained that there is resentment against outsiders who bring in valid alternative methods and ways. (I have witnessed this first hand.) <p>6) Yet, good managers in industry who supervise and groom their subordinates for advancement are as effective teachers as those in institutional settings.<p>So I apologize for criticizing teachers, however, why is it that most of the schools that are similar to the X have a statistically high percentage of teachers married to other teachers? There has to be something cliquish about the teaching profession that does not get along with the rest of the world.<p>BTW, there is the reality that three out of 4 marriages, (75%) at these institutions where one spouse was not married to a teacher, but worked in the outside, real world, ended in divorce.<p>there has to be something there. . . . . it can't be coincident. . . .<p>again, sorry for the anger, but i interact with this mentality all the time. . . and it irks me. . . and that is my opinion. . . <p>WIFTTy<p>[ December 07, 2001: Message edited by: WhenIfindthetime ]</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Wiffty,<p>I don't have much time, but some of the things you said are disturbing.<p>One thing I really wanted to touch on is what you said regarding "Clinguish about teachers that can't get along with the real world."<p>I have many teachers who are friends of mine. They have patience and understanding that others sometimes fail to have. They get this from sitting in a class room all day and dealing with adolescents. I take pride in knowing these fine individuals.<p>I think where your statistic lie are easily explained. Often people marry others from the places they work in or meet them at school. Teachers generally meet others teachers. Working in a corporate setting individuals may have the opportunity to meet many different groups of people. Teachers have a lot of communications with other teachers due to their professions. This only makes sense they will have a high rate of marriages within the teaching profession.<p>I hope you rethink your position regarding teachers.<p>Take care,<p>ANNA
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Anna,<p>I used to agree with you, until i looked at the teacher divorce stats in the multi-school community that i used to live in.<p>I agree with the marriage theory, but what about the divorce theory? help me there??<p>also , help me with a good answer to my math homework question post. . . .<p>I will rethink my position, but it is getting harder and harder to. great, they have patience with kids but one of the observations made to me by one of those doctorate professionals who told me about teachers, is that they have little patience with adults.<p>Help, i need that counselor soon!!!!!<p>WIFTTy
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One learned man's opinion does NOT make it fact.
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From Wiftty's math question thread: So i am beginning to hate teachers. See my response to Nina Too under Dabigtrain and "how i spent Thursday night."<p>Me too?????<p>You kinda picked the wrong day to make such comments, Tom.
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